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TYPIST LEFT THE FACTORY AT 12:02 P. M s ON DAY OF TRAGEDY
Miss Hattie Hall Testifies for the Defense and Is Grilled by Dorsey
RESIDENTS OF DALTON’S
HOME COUNTY RIDDLE
EXPERT CONTRADICTS
DR. HARRIS'TESTIMONY
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Dr. George
Continued From Page 1.
but Attorney Hooper s address to the court was the first open de
claration.
The court and ehaingang rec
ord of C. B. Dalton, a State’s
witness against Frank, was giv
en an airing by Attorney Arnold.
Dalton was recalled to the stand
and made to dmit tht he had
been sent to the ehaingang in
1894 on three separate counts for
stealing in Walton County.
Dalton alan admitted that he had
heeifl indicted in 1899 in Walton Coun
ty for theft and had paid a fine of
$141.46.
Attorney Arnold showed the wit-
dess copies of four indictments and
asked if he knew theae had been is
sued against him in Walton County
for selling liquor to Don Tillman and
Bob Harris. Dalton denied all knowl
edge of the indictments
Witnesses Assail
Dalton's Character.
As soon as Dalton left the stand
V. S. Cooper. J. H. Patrick, W. T.
Mitchell and I. M. Patrick, all resi
dents of Walton County, were called
to the stand and testified that they
knew Dalton and that they wouldn't
l»el!eve him on oath in a court f
Justice.
Misses Laura Atkinson and Minnie
Smith were called and denied Wal
ton’s testimony in regard to being in
their company.
Dalton testified. when he was called
by the State last week, that he had
visited the factory basement with
Miss Dalay Hopkins and that he fre
quently had seen Frank in his office
with women.
An unassailable alibi was the ob
ject in view when the attorneys for
Fnnk began the questioning of a
long line of witnesses who were
called to testify in regard to every
known movement of Frank Saturday,
April 26. the day that Mary Phagan
was slain.
The testimony of Misa Hattie Hall
was the first along this line. That of
Alonzo Majm. office boy, was next.
C. E. Pollard, an expert accountant,
was the first witness called. He be
gan to testify as to the time required
to make out the finance sheet. At
torney Rosser said that the defense
probably would conclude its expert
testimony with Mr. Pollard, and that
Miss KxDvie Hall stenographer for
Montag Brothers, would be the next
witness.
Pollard testified that the minimum
time In which Frank could have com
piled the finance sheet was three
hours and eleven minutes. This bore
out the testimony of Herbert Schiff,
Frank’s oo-worker, arul Joel Hunter,
expert accountant.
Over Three Hours
To Compile Report.
Q. What is your business?—A. Cer
tified public accountant.
Q. Have you had occasion to go
over the financial sheet of the Na
tional Pencil Company of the week of
April 24 prepared by Leo M. Frank?
A. I went over a copy of it.
Q. Have you also seen the factory
record called the pencil sheet?—A.
Ye s.
Q. Were you also furnished data
necessary to make that sheet?—A.
Yes.
Q. 1 will get you to state as an ex
pert how long it would take to com
plete it?—A. I took each sheet, com
piled it. and timed myself as to the
length of time necessary. I prepared
the sheet of the 24th day. It took
me ten minutes. #
Q. .Were there any mistakes?—A.
Yes. a little one--of one and one-half
groat. It was hard to say whether
it was my mistake or his.
Q. Now’ state the total time it took
you?—A. A total of 191 minutes, or
3 hours and 11 minutes.
Q. Was that the quickest?—A. Yes.
Q. In other words, you took exact
ly the work that he did?—A. Yea;
what I was told he did.
Q. That was steady work without
'interruption, wasn't It—A Yes.
Q. How long have you been an au
ditor?—A. Sixteen years.
Q. Have you an office here?—A. I
am with the American Audit Com
pany.
Q. That mistake occurred before
you took up the sheet, did it not?—A.
One mistake was made the Saturday
before and one on Friday.
Q. Are those two trifling mistakes
—a mistake of BO cents and a gross
and a half of pencils—the only mis
takes you found?—-A. Tes.
Attorney Hooper took the witness
on cross-examination.
Q. Mr. Pollard, this is rather an
unusual assignment for you, is it not,
to go over a man’s business and un
dertake to state how long it takes
Jtun to do it2—A. No, I think not.
Frequently we are called on to esti
mate the time it lakes to do work in
changing systems.
Q. Is it not true that a man can
work his own book* better than any
one else’s books?— A. Yes.
Mr. Arnold took the witness.
Q. How many time* would a man
have to multiply, divide and subtract
in making up that sheet?—A' Well,
40 multiplications and 160 additions,
and I can’t guess on the rest.
The witness was excused and Miss
Hattie Hall was called. She was
questioned by Attorney Arnold.
(j. What is your business?—A
Stenographer-bookkeeper at Montag
Brothers
Q. Do you ever go to the National
Pencil Company? A. When neces
sary.
y. On Saturday, April 26. did you
see Leo M. Frank? A. About 10
o'clock at Montag Brothers.
y. Did he say anything? - A. Yes,
he asked me if I could come over and
do some work. F told him I didn’t
know, but thought I could.
Dorsey interrupted;
“I object to anything he saic
her.”
Arnold; ‘ Your honor, it is part of
res gestls in this case."
Dorsey "Here Is this dead girl.
They would not let her show what she
said at 12 o’clock and 1 can conceive
of no principle of law that would let
them show what this man said and
not let her show what the deceased
said.”
Aimed to
Show Conduct.
Arnold: “This is merely to show
a course of conduct.”
Judge Roan: ”1 can see no analogy
between the two cases. I rather think
you can ask the question.”
Dorsey: "Well, this is a very im
portant point, your honor, and we
would like to give you some author
ities.
Judge Roan; “All right.”
Dorsey then read at length fro.c the
Eighty-fourth Georgia Report.
Judge Roan: "Do you expect to
follow that question by showing that
he had certain work to do and en
gaged her to do it?”
Arnold: “Yes.”
Judge Roan: "Then I will let you
ask it.”
Dorsey threw his book on the table
and sat down, laughing Arnold con
tinued the questioning.
Q. When did you call him first?—
A. He called me up before 10 o’clock
and said he had work enough to do
to keep him busy until 6 o’clock.
Dorsey: "Is your honor going to
let that telephone conversation in?"
The Solicitor's objection was over
ruled
Q. Miss Hall, did you recognize his
voice?—A. I certainly did.
Q. What time did you see him that
Saturday morning?—A. About 10
o’clock.
Q. Had you worked for him before ’
— A. T had been accustomed to going
over and helping him on Saturdays. T
asked him if he was going to need
me. He said. “Yes." that he had so
much work to do that he would be
busy until 6 o'clock.
Dorsey Calls Halt;
Frank Leaves Court.
Dorsey interrupted. "You honor,
are you going to let that in?”
Judge Roan: "I don't think I will.”
Arnold: "Your honor. I wish you
vvoul 1 let me argue for a moment
Even the State does not claim any
crime was committed at that time.
There is no reason in the world to
suppose that the accused would not
have told the truth at that time I
believe that if a part of the conver
sation is admissible, all of it is ad
missible. You must admit it all to
explain part. You would do this young
man an injurtice to shut out this
evidence of this day's program, when
there was not the slightest motive to
be otherwise than truthful."
Frank at thin moment left the
( ourtroom and Hooper jumped to his
feet for a whispered conference with
Arnold.
Arnold—Yes. 1 waived his pres
ence.
Judge Roan—I excused the prison
er properly.
Hooper—I just wanted to know if
the defense had waived his presence
Q. Now, we only have ten orders
here. See if they are the one» Frank
handed you?—A. Yes. My initials are
on them. They ate the ones.
Q Now, the orders are sometime*
acknowledged as the first step?—A
Yes; in that case they were.
Q. Do you recall to whom Frank
was talking that morning?—A. Yes,
but 1 don't recall the names. A man
eople came in?—A. I do not
I reca II.
q. Didn't you tell the Coroner it!
was fifteen minutes?—A. I don't re
member.
Q. Hqw Jon^ was it after those let
ters wet" 1 dictated that you com
menced writing?—A. Two minutes.
Q. rtau you tell how long you were
writing those letters?—-A. No.
y When you were writing those
letters, where was Frank?—A. In his
office.
Q. After you finished, what did he
do?—A. I took them in to him.
y. Did he sa}' anything?—A. He
said he would put ‘hem In the en
velopes and mail them.
Q. He said you need not wait?—A.
Yes.
Q. Did you get anything there Mon
day?—A. I got the timebook and
*orne papers.
Q. The previous Saturday when
you were over there, do you remem
ber Frank working on the financial
sheet that morning?—A. No; I helped
him get up something about gross—I
and his son came in. Then there was
Miss Corinthia Hall and Mrs. White.
y. Do you recall what any of them
said?—Yes; Mrs. White said she
wanted to see her husbapd.
y. During this time was Mr. Frank
working on this financial sheet or
any other similar document?—A. He
was not.
y Are you familiar with his hand
writing?—A. Not very.
y. I will get you to look on this or
der book and see if those orders are
entered.
The win teas read the eleven orders
from the order book.
Q. Now. Is that your handwriting?
—A. No; 1 think it is Mr. Frank’s.
Q Did you write any of these
requisitions?—A. No.
y. Do you know who did?—A. I
understood Mr. Frank did.
Q. Were the requisitions made be
fore or, after the orders were put on
the book?—A. After
Left Factory
At 12:02 P. M.
Q. Now look at these letters and
see whether Frank dictated them?—
A. Yes.
Q. How many?—A. Eight, and one
he did not dictate.
y. Did he sign them?—A. Yes, 1 took
them to him after 1 had typed them.
y. Did he do any work on that
financial sheet while you were there?
—A. No.
Q. What time did you leave?—A.
Just as 1 got on my hat and started
for the door I heard the whistle blow
for noon.
Q. Is there a regular whistle that
blows for 12 o'clock?—A. Yes, there
are several whistles.
Q. What did you do then?—A. I
got to the bottom of the steps and
remembered that I had forgotten my
umbrella. I went back and got it. It
was two minutes past 12 o’clock as I
passed the time clock.
y. Did you see any little girl in
the building?—A. I did not.
Dorsey took the witness on cross-
examination.
Q. Did you call Frank or Frank call
you that Saturday morning?—A. 1
called him.
Q. He had a regular stenographer,
didn't he?—A. They had a stenogra
pher. but she didn't do but about one-
third enough work so 1 had to go.
Q. Miss Hall, what were you receiv
ing at that time?—A. Ten dollars and
fifty cents a week.
y. What are you getting now Z—A.
Fifteen dollars a week, and I want
to explain
Q. Never mind, just answer my
questions. Didn't you state in a soda
fountain last night that the raise
came to you without asking for it aft
er it was known that you were to be
a witness?—A. Indeed, I did not. 1
don’t go to soda fountains. I want
to explain.
Attorney Arnold—Let her explain.
A 1 insisted that they give me this
raise -on July 1, but they wouldn't
give it to me until August 1.
y. Did Frank come to Montag's be
fore or after he called you uV?—A.
After.
y. You are the one who called him
up?—A. Yes.
Q. You did the insisting- about
going to his office?—A. I certainly did
not.
Q. Did you not swear at the Coro
ner’s inquest that Frank left Mon
tag’s before you did?—A. I said 1
did not recall.
Q. You acknowledged these orders
with a postcard and letter?—A. Yes.
You wrote those between 10:30
12?—A. Yes.
Did you state to the jury Frank
before you did?—A. I don’t re-
Q
and
Q
left
call.
y. How long would it take you to
fill out the blank?—A. I never timed
myself.
Talked Over Time
With Office Boy
y. Didn't you swear before the Cor
oner that it would not take more
than one minute?—A. I don’t know.
y. Did you say Frank was at the
office when you got there?—A. I said
I did not recall.
y. Who came in while you were
there?—A. Two men and three wom
en.
y. What time was it the office boy
left?—A. 11:30.
Q. Didn’t you tell the Coroner you
could not tell the time?—A. Yes.
Q. How do you know now?—A. The
boy told me.
y. You talked it over wirh him?—A.
Yes.
Q. Whore were >ou w hen those peo
ple came in?—A. In the outer of
fice.
Q How long were you there when
found afterward it was the average
sheet.
made it up. I helped him by trans
ferring .some of the things to the
sheet?”—A. Yes. but I thought it wao
the financial sheet.
Q. Didn’t you state at the coroner’s
inquest that you helped him the Sat
urday before?—A. Yes.
Herself. She Says.
Found Her Error
Q.When was it you discovered it
was not the financial sheet?—A. I
don’t know, but I want you to know
I discovered the mistake myself.
y. Now were you not at the fac
tory the previous Saturday and helped
him?—A. Yes.
y. Did you not have that financial
sheet before you at the Coroner’s
inquest, and did you not identify It?
—A. I don’t think so.
y. Well, you said he was working
on the financial sheet that previous
morning?—A. He was not.
y. Did you not t(fil the Coroner’s
jury that you were in the outer office
the entire time?—A. I don’t know.
y. Now explain how your mind un
derwent this change. You said then
you were not in his office and now
you say you were.—A. I was rattled
before the Coroner, because I had
never been in a courtroom before.
y. Now. didn't you say in response
to th equestion, “Do you know what
a financial sheet is?’’ that you did?—
A. But I was thinking of the aver
age sheet.
Q. Now what did you mean by tell
ing the Coroner some of those girls
came in for their pay and now saying
the only one you know' anything
about came in for her coat?—A. I
just forgot.
y. Nok didn’t Frank say that
morning that he would not get up
that sheet until Herbert Schiff came
down and got up the necessary data?
A. Yes, he said he could not go on
with his work until Schiff came down.
y. You do know' that Frank said
positively he could not make up that
sheet until Schiff had gotten up cer
tain data?—A. He did not positively
say so. He said he did not mind Mr.
Schiff being off if he had done his
work, but that he had not done his
work.
Q. Miss Hall, didn't you swear be
fore the Coronein jury that you
worked on this financial sheet which
is written in ink the Saturday pre
vious, and now to-day you *wear it
was this sheet which is written in
pencil?—A. I did not. I was identi
fying the handwriting on that sheet.
y. You said lots of people wrote
slanting, and it was hard to identif> ?
—A. Yes.
Q. While you w’ere working in
Frank’s outer office, you 9aid he was
very quiet and you did not know what
he was doing?—A. Yes.
y. You do not know whether ne
was working on the financial sheet
or not?—A. Yes; I saw the papers on
his desk that he was working on. and
the financial sheet was not among
them.
Attorney Arnold took the witness.
Q. Why did you tell Mr. Frank j'ou
had to get away at 12 o’clock?—A. He
said something about wanting me to
help him in the afternoon. I told
him I had to get away at 12 o'clock,
and I did get away at 12 o clock.
Dalton’s Prison
Record Exposed*
Dorsey objected to the answer, but
was overruled.
Miss Hall was excused and C. B.
Dalton was recalled to the stand.
Arnold questioned him.
Q. Who is Andrew Dalton?—A. A
brother-in-law.
Q. With the same name?—A. Yes.
Q. Who is John Dalton?—A. He is
my brother.
Q. Weren’t you three sent to the
ehaingang at the special term of the
Walton County Superior Court in
1894?—A. No.
Q. You w’ere not?—A. I was, but
the others paid out.
y. What did you steal?—A. A chop
hammer.
y. Didn’t. y6u plead guilty to two
more charges?—A. That is the only
time I ever went to the ehaingang.
I don’t know how long I served, but
I w’as pardoned in March.
Attorney Arnold moved that the
witness’ reply in reference to being
pardoned be struck from the records.
Q. Didn’t you plead guilty to three
charges all at the same time? And
that the sentence was concurrent on
the three charges?—A. All I took was
a chop hammer. One of the other
boys took a plow stock.
Q. At the February term of 1899,
were you not indicted for stealing a
bale of cotton?—A. For helping.
Q. Were you found guilty?—A. 1
was fined $146. which I paid.
Q. After that, did you not go into
Gwinnett County and steal?—A. I was
indicted for stealing some corn, but I
was found not guilty.
Dorsey took the witness.
Q. How long since you were in
trouble?—A. Eighteen years.
Dorsey to Recall
Daisy Hopkins. ,
Arnold took the witness.
Q. Is it not a fact that there are
now four indictment* against you in
Walton County for selling liquor?—A.
If there are I don’t know it.
Q. Is it not a fact that they let you
get out of the county and were glad
to get rid of you?—A. I have been
back there every year.
Dorsey took the witness.
Q. Do you know that Daisy Hop
kins knows Leo Frank?—A. J do.
Q. How do you know?—A. She told
me she knew him. and then I saw
her talking to him.
Arnold interrupted: "I object to
what she said.”
"That’s all right, then." Dorsey re
plied. “I will recall her.”
Dalton was excused and the de
fense began an attack on his char
acter with witnesses from Walton
County.
B. S. Cooper, the first witness call
ed. was accompanied by a small boy
of 6. He held the boy on his lap
while he testified on the witness
stand. Arnold questioned him.
Q. What is your business?—A. A
farmer.
Q. How long have you been in Wal
ton County?—A. Fifty years.
Q. Do you know C. B. Dalton?—A.
I do.
Q. Do you know his general char
acter?—A. I do.
Q. Is it good or bad?—A. Bad.
Q. Would you believe him under
oat 1 !? —A. I would not.
Wouldn’t Believe Him Under Oath.
At this point C. B. Dalton was
called for but could not be found. Dor
sey said he would admit that the wit
ness was speaking of the Dalton who
had testified against Frank. Hooper
was excused and J. H. Patrick wa,s
called. Arnold questioned him.
Q. Where do you* Jive?—A In Wal
ton County.
Q. What do you do?—A. Carpentir
and bailiff.
Q. Have you seen Dalton here this
morning?—A. I shook hands with him.
Q. Do you know r his general char
acter for truth and veracity and is it
good or bad?—A. Bad.
Q. Would you believe him on oath?
A. No.
The witness was excused and W.
T. Mitchell was called. Arnold ques
tioned him.
Q. Where do you live?—A. Walton
County.
Q. Do you know C. B. Daltqn ?—A.
Y es.
Q. Have you seen him this morning?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know his general char
acter?—A. Yes.
Q. Would you believe him under
oath?—A. No.
The witness was excused and I. M.
Hamilton was called. Arnold ques
tioned him.
Q. Where do you live?—A. Walton
County.
Q. What is your business?—A.
Farmer.
Q. Do you know C. B. Dalton 9 —A
Yes.
Q. Would you believe him under
oath?—A. No.
The witness was excused and Miss
Laura Atkinson, of No. 30 Ella stree'.
Atlanta, a woman apparently 35 years
of age, was called to the stand. Ar
nold questioned her.
Q. Where do you work?—A. At the
Empire Printing Company.
Q. Did you ever work for the Na
tional Pencil Company?—A. Yes, for
two days.
Denies Dalton’s
Story of Strolls.
Q. Do you know' C. B. Dalton?—A.
Yes. ^
Q. Did you ever walk home with
him from the Busy Bee Cafe on For
syth street?—A. I did not.
Q. Were you ever with him around
the National Pencil Company?—
Dorsey interrupted: "I object," he
said. "The witness said nothing that
reflected on this woman.”
Arnold: "It was a reflection for him
to say that he was with her."
The objection w as sustained.
Dorsey took the witness.
Q. How long have you known Dal
ton?—A. About six months.*
Q. Were you ever in his company ?
—A. I have been in Jus company
three times.
The witness was excused, and Mrs.
Minnie Smith called. Arnold ques
tioned her.
Q. Where do you work?—A. Na
tional Pencil Company.
Q. Are you the Mrs. Smith who
lives at No. 148 South Pryor street?—
A, Y'es.
Q. Are you the only Mrs. Smith at
that address?—A. Yes.
Q. Do you know C. B. Dalton?—A.
No. /
Q. Were you ever in his company?
—A. No.
SliLZER BUTTLES
Fights for Political Life While
Hostile Legislature Considers
Charges Against Him.
ALBANY, N. Y., Aug. 12.—Govern
or William Sulzer's political life hangs
in the balance to-day. Faced by a
hostile Legislature. Governor Sulzer,
with his back to the wall, fought with
more vigor than he had pressed into
any other contest in his long politi
cal career.
Before the Assembly convened to
vote on the resolution that Sulzer
should be impeached for "high crimes
and misdemeanors" for the alleged
private use of political funds and
speculation in Wall Street, opponents
of the Governor claimed to have
enough votes to pass the resolution.
At least five of the Judges of the
Court, of Appeals must participate in
the impeachment trial, and support
ers of Governor Sulzer rely upon the
judicial rather than the legislative
action of the- proposed court of im
peachment for.a favorable decision in
the involved case.
The resolution of impeachment,
whose formulation is based on find
ings of the Frawlev legislative com
mittee, was Introduced in the As
sembly at 12:15 a. m., when 101 of
the 150 members were present, but it
was predicted that close to a full at
tendance wpuld be on hand to-dav.
Democrats opposed to Governor Sui-
zer appointed committees to see that
evep- member was in his seat.
tesemblyman Schaap. a Progres
sive, and Assemblyman Louis Gibbs,
an independent Democrat, were the
two nominal leaders of the pro-Sui/.er
forces, and they' relied upon a good
following of Republicans in their fight
despite the fact that Governor Sulzer
is a Democrat.
Beveridge Accused
Of Forming Lobby
WASHINGTON, Aug. 12.—In an ef
fort to minimize the connection be
tween Janies Watson, former Rep
resentative from Indiana, and the
National Association of Manufactur
ers, counsel for the latter association
intends to show' the Senate Lobby
Committee that former Senator Bev
eridge, of Indiana, ready was respon
sible for the organization of a tariff
commission association to boost hue
own measure.
The National Tariff Commission
Association was put on its feet by the
National Association of Manufactur
ers officials, but only, they will seek
to prove, after friends of Beveridge
had laid the plans.
Resents ‘Weakling;’
Wants to Box Heflin
NEW YORK, Aug. 12.—John Black,
secretary of the Bronx Men’s League
for Woman Suffrage, has sent a let
ter to Representative J. Thomas Hef
lin, of Alabama, protesting against
the characterization of men who be
lieve in equal suffrage an effeminate
and weaklings.
He says perhaps an offer to go ten
rounds with '..he Congressman at some
local club would please him. adding
that some things have to be whipped
•into some men.
South Georgia Road
In Receiver’s Hands
j
VALDOSTA, Aug. 12.—The Valdos-
| l a, Moultrie and Western Railroad,
operating 42 miles from th ! » city to
Moultrie, has been placed in the hands
of a temporary receiver through fore
closure of a mortgage held by th<-
Valdosta Bank and Trust Company,
trustee, acting for the bondholder. B.
P. Jones, of this city, owner of the
$300,000 bonds, was appointed receiver
and the railroad cited to show cause
on August 23 why the action should
not be made permanent.
The railroad was built’entirely with
local capital fou> years ago. it was?
started on a capital stock of $100,000.
The $300,000 of bonds were issued be
fore it was completed.
C. I. Harrel, genera) manager, will
continue to operate the road for tiie
receiver.
FARMERS’ INSTITUTE.
ACWORTH.—The Cobb County
Farmers’ Institute, held iii Acworth.
was addressed by President A. P. Mc
Lain. of Acworth, and experts from
the United States and State Depart
ments of Agriculture. George M. Orr,
of Acworth, was elected president,
and Aubur Davenport, of Acworth.
secretary’ for the ensuing year.
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These are the celebrated "Eclipse make
and are "Genuine Bargains.
20 Doz. Wkite Plaited Skirts, 75c
CENTS
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Parks=Chambers-Hardwick
37-39 Peachtree C 0 HI P 3. fl y
Atlanta, Ga.