Atlanta Georgian. (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, August 16, 1913, Image 11

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TtiHi ATLiAJNlA ULUKUIAM AJNJ) MKW8, DOZENS OF WITNESSES TELL OF LEO FRANK'S GOOD STANDING Defense Paves Way for Placing the Accused Superintendent on the Stand FORMER EMPLOYEE OF FACTORY HELPSFRANK,, TESTIFY ABOUT ALLEGED Continued From Page 2. Yes; it was about 3 o’clock the first Saturday. / Q. How do you know?—A. I Just bathed and dressed. Q. What time was it then?—A. About 2 o'clock. Q. Did you see the office boy that Saturday?—A. Yes. Q. Who else?—A. Mr. Frank. Q. What time did you leave?—A. About 4 o'clock. 0 Do you recall the conversation while you were there?—A. Na Q. Did you go there often?—A. I made a practice of s'oinc there every Saturday and talking to them. Q. Most of the time that particular Saturday was Frank working?—A. Yes. Q. Did you talk to him while he wag working?—A. Not much. - Court then adjourned until 2 o’clock. Sheriff Warns Crowd To Be Quiet. Just before court convened for the afternoon session. Sheriff Mangum warned the crowd that if he heard any more laughter or hisses that he would bring the offenders before Judgp Roan and also clear the court room of the balance of the crowd. Solicitor Dorsey continued the cross-examination of Roy Bauer. Q. Who have you talked to since yon left the stand?—A. Mr. Deo Oottheimer, Mr. Sig Montag. Jim Gorst, Mr. Arnold and Mr. Rosser. Q. Where did you see them?—A. In Mr. Arnold’s office. Q. Why did you go to Mr. Arnold’s office?—A. I drove Mr. Sig Mon tag over in his car. ° Do you drive for him?—A. I have been since his wife has been away. Q. What did they talk to you about?—A. About my visits to the National Pencil Factory on Satur days. Q What did you tell them?—A. Nothing except what T told you. o. Now tell me about the third Saturday in January. What time did you get to the National Pencil Fac tory?—A. J don’t remember. Q. How do you remember the first Saturday?—A. I don’t know. Diu you look at any samples Q. of pencils that third Saturday?—A, No. Q. What Saturday was it, then?— A. The second. Q. You coul not remember who was up there the fourth Saturday, ex cept Mr. Frank?—A. No one that I remember. Q. Who did you see there the fourth Saturday?—A. I don’t know, except the peoplo who were usually there. Q. Do you recall what time he left? —A. No. Q. Did you see Mr. Holloway?—A. I don’t remember. The witness was excused and Har ry Gottheimer, who resides at the Imperial Hotel, and who is a travel ing salesman for Montag Brothers and the National Pencil Company, was called. Attorney Arnold ques tioned him. Q. Did you see Leo M. Frank Me morial Day?—A. Yes. At Montag Brothers about 10 o’clock. Q. Did you have any conversation with Mr. Frank?—A. Yes. He asked me if I could come over that morn ing and I told him no. Then he asked me if I could not come over that afternoon. Q. Had you seen him before that time in April?—A. Yes. Q. When?—A. Two weeks before that, I was at his office. His wife was there writing on the typewriter. Dorsey took the witness on cross- examination. Q. You say you work for Montag? —A. I do. Member of Society To Which Frank Belonged. Q. You are also a member of the Bnai Brlth, Frank’s society, are you not?—A. I am. Q. What did Frank say when you saw him at Montag’s?—A. He said he would see me that morning,' or that afternoon, if I preferred. Q. He didn’t say anything about having a baseball engagement with his brother-in-law. did he?—A. No. The witness was excused and Emma Bibbs, a negro servant for Herbert Schiff, was called. Arnold questioned her. Q. Do you recollect anyone calling up Mr. Schlff on Memorial Day?—A. Yes, sir. - It sounded like a boy’s voice. I didn’t ask who it was. Q. What time was it?—A. About 10 o’clock. Q. Did you call Mr. Schiff?—A. Yes, sir. He is hard to wake. He said he would go, but he went back to sleep. Q. What time was it they called again?—A. About 11 o'clock. Mr. Schiff said to tell them he vvouW come as soon as he dressed. Dorsey took the witness. Q. Emma, how long has Mr. Schlff been living there?—A. More than 40 years. I guess. Q. Forty years?—A. I was talking about the old man. Q. Did you always wake him up on holidays?—A. 1 don’t remember. Sometimes 1 would wake him up. Hr never would get up unless I waked him. Thanksgiving and Memorial Day Same. Q. How do you remember so well about Memorial Day?—Everyone re members Memorial Day. Q. How about Thanksgiving Day?— A. Memorial Day and Thanksgiving Day are the same. Q. Who was the first one you told about this?—A. I don’t remember. Q. Didn’t you talk it over with any one?—A. With the lawyer, Mr. Her bert Haas. Q. When?—A. Since the trial began. Q. Did he take you into the sitting room before the family and they all talked to you?—A. No, sir. Nobody talked to me but him. Q. What did he do? Take vou off to himself and ask you about It?—A. No, sir, he didn’t do nothing but give me my “suspena.” The witness was excused and An nie Hicks, cook for Mrs. Frsenbach, sister of Mrs. Frank, was called. Ar nold o.uestioned her. Q. Did you ket a telephone mes sage last Memorial Day?—A. Yes. Q. What time?—A. About 1:30. Q. What was It?—A. Some one called up and asked for Mr. Ursen- bach. I, said he was not in and he told me to tell him he could not go to the ball game with him. He slopped for a minute and then said: “Hush up honey” to someone and then said into the telephone. “All right.” I reckon he was talking 10 his wife. Q. Did you deliver the message?— A. Yes. Q. Do you know who it was talk ing?—A. Yes, it was Mr. Frank. Tells of Seeing Frank on Sunday. Dorsey took the witness on cross- examination. Q. Were you at the same place the following Sunday afternoon?—A. No. sir. I don't work anywhere Sunday afternoons. Q, Did you see Mr. Frank Sunday morning?—A. Yes. Q. Did you let him in?—A. No. Q. Where were you, then?—A. In the dining room. Q. Was he nervous?—A. No. Q. What were they doing?—A. Just standing around, laughing. Q. Did you know what you were going to swear?—A. No. If I had I planned to go to see my mother. Q. Did you ever talk to Minola Me Knight?—A. Yes Q. What did she say?—A. She said she was locked up. Q. What did she say she did?—A. Just prayed. Attorney Rosser objected to this question and answer and was sus tained. The witnew was excused and Tru man McCrary, a negro drayman, was called. Arnold questioned him. Mc Crary said that up to May 1 he had worked every Saturday at the Na tional Pencil Factory. Q. From July 1. 1912. to January 1. 1913, how many Saturday after noons did you miss working there? —A. I wouldn’t say more than one. Q. How late did you work there? —A. Usually until about 5 o’clock. Q. On any Saturday, did you see the front door locked?—A. No. Q. Did you ever see Jim Conley watching around the front door?—A. No. Q. Did you ever find Mr. Frank’s outer office or inner office door lock ed 0 —A A. No, sir. Q. What sort of substance ar^ the doors to his office made of?—A. Glacis. Doesn't Know Which Saturday He Missed. Q. Who did you find with Mr. Frank?—A. Sometimes Mr. Schiff. Q. Did you see Jim Conley around the factory April 26, Memorial Day? —A. I did not. Q. You were them that day?—A. Yes, sir I went there first about 7:30 o’clock and I went up to see Mr. Frank a little before 12 o’clock. Dorsey took tho witness on cross- examination. Q. What Saturday was it you missed between July and January?— A. I don’t remember. Q. What time did you arrive at tho factory on your flrMt trip?—A. About 7:30 o’clock. Q. How do you know?—A. I Just come from Mr. Schiff’s. Q. What had ycu been doing there? —A. Taking him his clothes. Q. What time did you get your pay Saturday?—A. I don’t remember, ex actly. Some time before 12 o’clock Q. You never saw that peglegged drayman there that morning, did you?—A. No. Q You do remember putting your hay down at the door?A. Yes. sir. Q. You say you never saw Jim Con ley there on Saturday afternoons?— A. No. Q. Were you ever there vourse'f on Saturday afternoons?—A. Yes, sir. Q. When you wont there for your bills, would ou en up to the office to get them or would thev bring them down to you?—A. Some times I went up to the office for them and some times they brought them down. The-witness was excused and Isaac Haas, 479 Washington street, was called. Arnold questioned him. Haas testified to the general good char acter of Frank. Q. Mr. Haas, did your telephone wake you up on Sunday, April 27? A. No, it woke my wife and she woke me. The witness was excused and Ar thur Pride, a negro, was called. Ar nold questioned him. % Q. Is your name Arthur, or Walk er?—A. Both. Some calls me Walk er and some the other. Q. Where do you work?—A. Sec ond floor of the r>*netl factory. Q. Do you work on a machine? A. Yes. Q. Do you recall missing a Sat urday since June of last year?—A. No. Q. Do you Just, work on the sec ond floor?—A. No, I work from the basement to the roof. Q. On any of the Saturdays you worked did you ever see any women In the office of Mr. Frank?—A. No. Q. Did you ever see Jim Conley standing guard on the first floor? A. No. Q. Were you at the factory Me morial Day? a. No. y. What kind of work did Jim Cor ley do?—A. Sweeper and elevator man. Q. Do the employees use the back stairway that lends from the second to the third and fourth floors?—A. Yes. Q. When the machinery is not run ning. can you hear the elevator? A. Verv plainly. Q. Is there any difficulty in hearing the elevator run on any floor?—A. No. y. Would you believe Jim Conley under oath?—A. No. Hooper took the witness or cross- examination. Q. When did you make up your mind you would not believe Jim?—A. About four months ago. Q. Why?—A. He and his whole family told a lie on me. q. What was it?—A. He got me Into trouble. Q. You are a better negro than Jim?—A. No, but 1 am a better grade negro. O Well what did he do?—A. He brought me a watch that was marked “paid in full’ and sold it to me. He got arrested for It and his family promised to pay for it if 1 -*ot him out. I got it fixed and they would not pay me. q. Where was the elevator kev kept?—A. I don’t know. Q. Did you hear that elevator when the wind was blowing th> blinds?—A. Yes. But the wind wasn’t blowing the blinds. Arnold took the witness. Q. You «ay Conley Gorged a re ceipt and sold you the watch! A. Yes. Woman Says She Saw Bloodspots. The wltneBs was excused and Mrs. El H. Carson, No. 61 Mclntire street, was called. Arnold Questioned her. Mrs. Carson said she worked at the, pencil factory. Q. Have you at any time seen blood spots around the ladles' toilet? —A. Yes; very often. Q. Were you at the factory April 26?—A. Yes. , Q. What time did you leave?—A. 12:30. Q When were you there again?— A. Monday. Q. When did you first see Jim Conley after the crime?—A. Tues day. Q What time did you see him gain?—A. Thursday. Q. Did you say anything to him?— A. I said; "Well, I see they haven’t got you yet. He said: "I ain’t done nothing." 1 told him that Mr. Prank hadn’t done anything, but they had him in Jail. That when they found the negro that was on the first door that day, that they Would have the murderer of Mary Phagan. He put down his broom and walked away. Q. How long have you known Mr. Frank?—A. For three years, the first of last April. Q Was his character good or bad? —A. It was always good. Q. How long have you known Jim Conley?—A,. 1 don't know how long. Q. What was his character for truth and honesty?—A. Bad. Q. Would you believe him under oath?—A. No, I would not. Dorsey took the witness on cross- examination. <J. Do you know Miss Daisy Hon- klns? (Miss Hopkins was brought Into the' courtroom)—A. No, 1 don’t know her. There are lots of em I don’t know. Jury Goes Out for Usual Soft Drink. Q. What time was it Tuesday after the murder that you talked to Con ley?—A. It was something after 9 o’clock. Q. Don’t you know’ you talked to Frank and Conley both on the fourth floor that day?—A. I think I did. Q. Didn’t you see Frank whisper to Conley?—A. No, I did not. O What did Frank say?—A. He said he was sorry about the little girl being killed. ^ um you hear anyone else say they were sorry about the girl being murdered? 1 —A. Well, to tell you th$ truth, I was so stirred up and Upset I don’t remember Just what was said. I have been upset ever since, aiKl I am not rignt now. I was awful sorr/ about the little girl. At this point Mr. Dorsey asked for the records of the National Pencil Company. The defense aid riot have them. Dorsey: ”1 served a duces tecum on you. I need those records.” Rosser: “We have called on you for papers several times when you did not have them. You Just quarrel like an old she-cat.** Arnold: “Let’s quit this quarrel ing. Hugh. eLt’s all quit it. It is disgusting.” The Jurors were excused for a few minutes to taek their usual afternoon soft drink. Q. Did you see those blood spots or the .second floor near the ladies’ dressing room?—A. Yes. Q. And you say you have seen such blood spots before?—A. Yes. Where, In the basement?—A. No, I have never been In the basement. I saw It around the sink, in the toilet on the second floor and on the steps. Says Conley Declared Frank Was Innocent. Q. Did you know who had been hurt?—A. No. Q. DlfT you see anyone around there?—A There were lots of girls around there. Q. With their fingers cut?—A. Oh, no. Q. Did you see Frank Monday? A. No. Q. You did not see him until Tues- dav?—A. No. Q When did you see Jim Conley again'—A I saw him Thursday. I said “Jim, J see they pe.-en’t ret yet ” He said. “No, Missis, I ain’t done nothing.’’ And he looked nee he was scared. I said. "No. Mr. Frank hasn’t done anvthlng either, but they got him." He said, "N>, .Missis he Is as innocent as you. and I know voil is." I answered. "When thc-v And " h tie Mary Phagan it will be the ne- gro Mrs. Wniu- 1 Continued on Page 6, Column 1. Many Bargains in Our August Clearance Sale Saturday All Summer Hats Must Go [pip**STORE OREM UNTIL 10 O’CLOCK SATURDAY NIGHT^'^PUl Ladies’ Muslin Underwear A clean-up of all the Summer Hats. Pret ty ratine Hats, white Chips, black Chips °nd ready-to-wear dress Hats; values up t 33.00. Choice 69 Embroidery and Voile Dresses 200 pretty and dainty white all-over embroidery and pretty voile Dresses: not one worth less than $5.00. Clear ance Price $| .98 Clearance Sale of Baby Caps 25 c 1,000 Baby Caps, daintily trimmed with embroidery and lace. Bought from one of the largest millinery Jobbers In the South at a sacrifice; worth up to $i _ach. Clearance Price Sample Silk Waist Sale 100 sample Silk Shirtwaists and Shirts; made to sell for $3 and $4 and up to $6. Some slightly soiled. Clearance 98 Children’s School Dresses Just the thing for the school children, 400 sample Dresses, made of line galatea and good quality madras; $1.50 values; all sizes. Special 69 Ladies’ and Misses’ Skirts $^.98 Ladies’ and Misses’ all-wool Serga Skirts, in navy, tan. black, gray and all-wool mixtures; $5 and $6 values. Clearance Price BEAUTIFUL axa third OH! YOU READY CASH: Here is what it did—Our Mr. L. B. Joel, in New York last week, bought for SPOT CASH over 500 beautiful Dresses in All-over Nets, Handsome Embroidered White Voiles, Beautiful Silk Tissues, Messaline Silks, Z*j|| Silk Ratine Dresses, Etc. Dresses worth up to $12.50; choice 3 Other Ready-to-Wear Bargains Ladies’ White Corduroy Skirts made to sell for $1.50 to $2. In this ©‘7#% sale QIC Ladies’ Handsome Shirt Waists, all beauti fully trimmed and worth up to $2.50. Choice O I C Ladies’ Lisle Finish Vests, the 19c kind. Saturday 5c 88c Ladies’ long figured Crepe Kimonos in beau tiful patterns; all colors. Worth $2.00. Choice Ladies’ 54-inch Rainproof Rubber Coats, made to sell for $5.00. This 4 QjQ sale $ 1 .^10 Ladies’ good quality House Dresses, worth $1.50. In this COrt sale OU Ladies’ Long Lawn Kimonos, well made of good material and worth $1.50. A At* Ladies’ Black Mercerized Petticoats with deep embroidered flounce, worth OQ» $1.00. Special OwC Ladies’ Lawn Dressing Sacks, made to sell for $1.00. On sale Saturday. Special WWW Ladies’ Muslin Underwear 3,000 Sample Garments Ladies’ Mus lin Underwear bought at one-third their value will go on sale Saturday at the fol lowing reduced prices: ,, Good quality Muslin Drawers, neatly 1 Q/% trifnmed and worth 50c .....il wC Ladies’ Drawers trimmed with dainty embroid ery and worth up OC* to 75c CwC Fine quality Muslin Corset Covers, trimmed with embroidery and worth up 4 to 50c I wC Well-made, good quality Muslin Corset Covers, embroidery trimmed and a good j)l%f* 75c value bVW Ladies' Gowns, trimmed with embroidery and worth up QQft Neat Embroidery-trimmed Muslin Gowns, worth 47c Ladies’ embroidery-trimmed Petticoats, made of good quality Muslin; worth $1.00 wvw Muslin Petticoats trimmed with wide embroid ery and made to sell PO - for $1.50 DSJ'* Very fine Muslin Petticoats trimmed with wide embroidery and not a one worth less QDf*- than $2.50; in this sale $1.00; in this sale Main Floor Clearance Sale Bargains For Saturday 500 Bolts Numbers 60 and 80 a 11-Silk Taffeta Ribbons, 4 and 5 inches wide, in all colors, f _ yard DC 1,500 yards All-Over Embroideries and 27 and 36-inch Embroidery Flouncing, worth $1 yard, 150 Bolts Oriental Lace Bands, made to sell for 25c yard, in this g-_ sale, yard DC 1,000 yards linen Torchon Laces, 4 to 6 inches wide and worth Rg* up to 25c; yard DC 500 Bolts Best Antiseptic Cotton Dia per, 34 inches wide and KQf* worth $1 bolt vvv 200 bolts fine English Longcloth, ex tra fine soft finish, worth $1.25; bolt 03C 120 dozen good quality, extra heavy Huck Towels in this sale Rt* only, each DC 28 bolts good quality Brown Dress Linen, yard-wide and worth A. a quarter; yard DC 200 dozen full double bed size Bleached Sheets, hemmed ready for *5© use, only L. Q 80 dozen Double Face Bleached Dam ask Napkins, hemmed ready for use; dozen Bulgarian Crepes, Silk Poplins, Silk Striped Voiles, White Ratines and 45- inch White and Cream 4 Voiles; yard 1 53C Closing out all Colored Lawns, Organ dies, Voiles and Colored Flaxons. Regular 25c goods; Kf* yard VW 25 Pieces Double Width All Silk Malines, in black, white and colors, worth 39c yard . 8c BASS DRY GOOD 300 Bolts genuine yard-wide Fruit of and Lonsdale Bleaching, yard the Loom 72c