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TIIP: ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. Time levels All~~the Football Hero Kinds No Subs in llie Classroom COACH HEI5MAN RANKS SECOND And the Paper Is Still Waiting for Jeff’s Story By 'Bud’ Fisher i IS EXPECTED Tech, Vanderbilt and L, S. V. Arej Tied for Third Place In 1913 Standing, we'vfc iu*,TTp« our roR'r *%ovr n<t j Cltt-AT BATRC WO kCe.B'JT VMfc*vf r— ^or To *AAU. »T TO TKt THC ! Mexican a rr will hams a M()U(an C VTA,*,, W i> w rxe tw ; > know we'*®./ I AK|N<,. rrjwu.nr rooNs. tor To J INTO OAOR^T KNO -,*•>- ST. ITU T»>«* TM*T WON'T Bv .1, W. II eisman. I * T if a simple enough mutter to write a review of the foot ha.I ft«a>ot< In the Southern Inter collegiate* Athletic. Association, but t- attempt a ranking of all the lean ,< therein la a lank from whioh tn > Ptouteat haart (or nerviest dopester’ rnay w*ll quail. No one denies that Auburn le en titled to the championship. but that is about the only weli-eatabUfhed place In the ranking Enough ha a been said and written about the Plainsmen and their play to render any extended review of their season superfluous. They had splendid ma terial and lots pf It; and the coaches knew how to utilize It. Not ever> college or at r of coaches knows how to handle good and plentiful material, even if they have it, and Auburn r greatest achlevemen. lay in making fho most of her opportunities. The strength of the Auburn team rraa revealed by the fact that tin > fiirt not need a greatly dlvertdflrd style of pla> in order to win th ir f emes Their play was aimoet en [rely atraight football, without even forward passing figuring to an> ex tent in their work This serves to show how powerful their men were and how well they were drilled in the rudiments It was a very fine team, and Auburn may well be proud of it. * * • "M" OW comes the big job in trying to determine the order «>f prior ity between Georgia, Vanderbilt, Louisiana and Tech That Georgia deserves to rang Shoad of Tech is at once conceded, but it 1h not so clear that she de serves t<* be rated ahead of the other two. And. on the other hand., it is not clear that these other two merit n higher rating than does Tech. And here s the cause of all our trouble: After a very careful and thorough consideration of the facts In the ray 1 belts** It right to rank Georg;.* ahead of at? the oth*» three, with .a clean ho'd on second place Van derbilt iv*d register a big "hol'er .t this point on the ground that the - ' held Auburn closer than did Georgia. tf.-» they did but they failed to do anything against Virginia that was at all comparabb to what the Oeor spans accomplished against the same team. Vanderbilt will point to her Mg •core against Sewanee, but, with all due respect to Sewnnee, her team \\; - not up to standard Ills year, and I do not rate that victory as any great er than Georgia's against North Car olina. And after you have consid ered these two games of the Commo dores. what have they left worth dwelling on in their reason's record? Nothing And wliat has Georgia left outside of her good victory over Ala bama—a team that beat Tennessee worse than Vanderbilt could beat them—and a clear victory over the strong Tech team. And these ire the reasons I place Georgia ahead of the Commodore* it* \T OW for Louisiana They had a ^ strong team, and they have a satisfactory season's work to thc-ir credit. But five of the games on their schedule were very easy, ant yet they were scored on In two of those. Three of their other games were with 3. !. A \ teams Mis sissippi A. A V Auburn and T«xhs A A M. These were the only strong teams Louisiana played. One of them she lost and the other two she tied: so that she can i.iake no very loud \ claim on what eh* accomplished in REAL games And that is why 1 place Louisiana second to Georg:* On just what basis should teams be ranked anyway? There could he a lot of hefty argument on that point ’.reelf Tt> something like in college baseball-- no two teams play the name opponents, nor the same num ber of games nor under identical conditions. Therefore at b'-st the whole thing is a gue^s. Tev but a guess as to what" as to whi h. of two teams has made the better record throughout the season, or which is the stronger at the close of the season, or which of the two would win If they encountered each other in a game, and if so. on what date are you supposing such a c.ime to take, or to have taken, place? \nd there you are So much depends upon the angle from which you are viewing the question It * e.*i*\ to understand that for good and sufficient reasons one teani might be much further along in its development early in October than another and would probably win the game were those two teams to come together at that time On the other hand, the first team might have retrograded, rela tively, by the latter part of Novem ber while the other had gone on to fulfill her destiny, the exigencies of her schedule and the local peculi arities of her situation in such a wa> as to he exceptionally strong right near the close of the season whereas :t showed practically no strength during the first half and could not therefore be expected to be able to make much of a record. Un der these circumstances should the omparative records be relied upon to show which was the better team? <‘»r should we just look at the two '■'sin* in action at the same or at different times during the season and express an expert opinion as to w'hirh would win if they were to ■ »mc together? And if the latter is the test, let us not forget that v> e Mill have to bear in mind what the PLAN of development of each team " a .n order to be fair to both and P-.Atht game at such a date dur- 7 M JcV/.' st(Vd, v ^/l V'' iJW y - S If—i T9.J ft r Stai. | POLLY AND HER PALS There Were Two Low Necks D'o /5f e the mv )— Poll*/ ttfEwT Out LA$T MI6HT WTH LcvaHUK AH’ ‘JHCRTT SLE.EVES. ah'The -thermometer. TEM A8CMLZ 5URE I IT ! But vWo76 the 6ood Cf/4R6uiH6 vtfCTH 5he VK/UWT i iSTfW T'MuTHih'1 MEWWIE BR4VE ' Ht A R 1 $ ARt- AH'JUzp i*J THEE I 6oT A I0L4! »a6u TH4T MEW BE4U or- HERS To LECTURE. HER ABCU T BUM Dll UP HER ChE5T ‘ T k^: TFo BE-ware .j B£E • WA-R-E- P-Si DJO vbu HAIL m MATE / ■ *~y \\ \V (jR-BAT (jvfJ5. CAM A BCDCy L<ST&J *To The \X//THouT BU5Wr| i op The P/irtV ? f j Hou) I ldsmari Ranks 7 earns 1. Auburn. 9. Clemson and Tennes- 2. (ieorgiii. see. 3. Tech, Vanderbilt and 11. Florida and Missis- Louisiana. sippi College. 13. Tulane. (j. Sewanee and .Miss. A. 14. Citadel. and M. 15. Mercer. 8. Alabama. 16. Charleston. ing the season n« would do justice to the top notch playing strength of both- which would be a thing im possible to do. Bo you see w e have here a very complicated proposition to handle I WILL frankly say that I try to tak* ALL these points into con sider men in attempting • ranking It will not give general satisfaction for anyone to rank all the teams according to his opinion as to their relative strength on the last playing clay of the season, although such a plan would have much argument in its favor. The SEASON record of a team MUST largely be taken into account even though it may have planned more definitely for n par ticular rival or two at a particular time of the season, rather than on its w hole season's record And after that one must still leave room for the injection of a little per sona! opinion into the equation as tft which team would win were they to come together Vanderbilt played neither Tech nor Louisiana, nor did either of the oth- *r > play cither of the remaining two How is one to decide which would win in the case of an encounter be- tween an> V There is no sure way to decide If (here were, no such thing as betting on the outcome of games would take place: the fact that people bet and bet proves that they are of different minds. But it is put upon my shoulders to hazard an opinion and a duty that T must face. Others may disagree with me—and plenty of them will. We shall not go to war on that account. * • « TSJOV . a:- between Louisiana, Yan- ^ derbilt and Tech 1 can not see but what Tech is FULLY deserving of a ranking on a par with the other two Let us look again at what all three teams did. Vanderbilt beat Sowanee badly; but, on the whole, hardly any worse— in a football sense—than did Tech when It is re ailed that the Tigers scored twice on Vanderbilt. whereas she couldn’t score at all on Tech. So this comparison nets neither team any- i thing j Vanderbilt held Auburn closer than I Tech. But in mid-season the Com- ; uodovc.v < . ,!* • 1 defeat Tennessee but j' lie point wLi Tech's mid-season \i ’uiy over Sewanec was achieved after the latte had already decislve- I lv defeated Tennessee. Of course. I Vanderbilt comes back and says. ' Yes,*but w© are not comparing mid- season form, but form at the close of the season.” Very well, could any team show more brilliant, playing form on Thanksgiving Day than Tech? To beat this strong team two touch downs better than even Auburn could score against them should certainly be a classy enough performance to suit anybody. And if one inquires into Tech’s early season form they find the Yel low Jackets going at a clip that none can surpass, for thev defeated both Citadel and Chattanooga early in the season by scores that were not even approached by any other teams at any time during the entire season. Now, while Vanderbilt did nothing especially worthy of mention in the early part of the season, and still nothing in mid-season, but did come to a tine height at Its close. Louisiana came to her height at mid-season, against Auburn. The first part of her season shows nothing to wonder over, nor does the last. She made a good showing in one game in mid season at the top of her form, and that lets her out. But Tech did things early 1n the season, and in the middle of the sea son, and at the end of tite season. Yes, she lost to both \uburn ajvd Georgia, but just at a time when she had in the field her weakest line-ups of the year, due to absolutely nothing but bad luck By this it is not meant that she would have won from these with a different line-up. but she would, no doubt, have held both Au burn and Georgia closer had she been able to encounter either team earlier or later. These I consider good and sufficient reasons for saying plainly that at the very lea^*t Tech is tied with both Louisiana and Vanderbilt for third place. it* AS Sewanee won from A abama and ** Tennessee she must be handed sixth place; for Alabama defeated Clemson, the only other possible con tender outside of Mississippi A. and M. Inasmuch as Mississippi A. A M. also defeated Alabama, it may be ar gued that they hav« as much right to be put sixth as Sewanee; and I dare say they have. Sewanee won over Alabama by a three points' margin, while A. A M won by a veve:i-po'it margin In addition, A. M. p1a> u tar strong Louisiana team a : ie game On the other hand, Sewanee did about equally well to hold Texas to a dose score. Altogether, it is a stand-off. and a tie for sixth place Ritchie Starts Work For Championship Go With Tommy Murphy SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 1.—With a crowd of something more than 200 fans on hand to watch him, Willie Ritchie went through his first Sunday's grind prior to his approaching mill with Har lem Tommy Murphy, with the light weight championship at stake His per formance, so fur as the crowd was con cerned. consisted chiefly of six rounds of boxing with three sparring part ners. and. although gym work Is not the truest tost of a man's ring ability, the San Franciscan displayed quite enough to warrant ihe assertion that he is improving Harlem l*omm\ Murphy started work at Shannon's place, ami the gym was packed with the followers tp* gqm* Murphv did b^ boxing with Frankie ikl wards and Eddie Miller, three rounds apiece. 4 Harvard Stars on All-Eastern rtr v*v t*v vs*r v • v • v Carlisle Players Also Honored is as fine as I can venture to draw the line ALABAMA and Clemson perhaps * * won and lost about the same number of games during the season, but inasmuch as Alabama won over the Palmettos b\ a decisive margin of 20 points the laurel wreath must be handed the former, for where a direct game does take place between two teams the results of th.r contest must be accepted for thur face value regardless of what com parative scores in other encounters may show. In ninth place T must rank Tennes see as tied with Glemsoii. Both won from Davidson by low scores, and both have to their credit one corking good game against a. strong team — Tennessee against Vanderbilt and Olemson against Georgia Tennessee, ns well as ''lomson. were snowed un der by Alabama, while both had their j victories against 'r*ser teams, • * * C'T-ORIDV and Pitade! lost to a' no A big teams bur pLaved pretty fa ■ ball, all things considered, throughout the season. The former won from the latter and so must be rated high er. Both o? them deserve better ranking than Mercer, although the game between Citadel and Merc-, r was a tie, Tulane belongs dow*n there some where. hut at exactly which notch it would be hard to say—probably bc-j tween Citadel and Florida Mississippi College came Into prominence throughout the first half of the season with some nice games and creditable victories. Her work for the season entitled her to a place alongside of Florida. Texas A. «Sr M. has been left out of the ranking, as she is so far away it Is impossible to keep good track of her over in this neck of the woods. They had a good team all right, as is shown by their playing Louisiana to a standstill. Consideration of the Kentucky colleges is omitted for the same rea son Chattanooga is not in the associa tion. but she made n fine fight of »t against every team except Tech. Her season s re- ord vyuld be on a plane with that of FloriiO. Bv Frank G. Menke. x tEW YORK, Dec. 1.—And now w’e I \ approach the most difficult task of our giddy young life—the selection to-day of an All-Eastern eleven, an All-Western team to-mor- iow and All-American aggregation on Wednesday as our final football job of the v ear. Never before has the picking been harder- In other years there was < nly a sprinkling of real football stars m the Last and West. This season practically every team in the coun try has brought to light one or more luminaries, who ’by all the laws of fairness ought to be given positions on the all-star outfits Merrillat t&kea rank a« one of the greatest ends that ever played the game He ’s a hard, sure tackier, gets down under punts with amaz ing speed and seldom during the past season did be fail to spill a pla> that started around his wing. On the of fense he is even a mightier power. As a broken runner he has few peers, and he handles the forward pass with perfection. Hogsett was one of the big factors in the great showing made during the .is' a ly I Lirini'l | . Harvard Tackles Picked. Btorer and Hitchcock, the Harvard tackles, loom up as the best men that played at their positions in the East. Time and again during the past sea son the rival elevens directed their rnta'-k against these men. and almost as often were they thrown back many times with a loss. Both men demonstrated th«»ir value on offensive plays in every game during the sea son. Brown, the big Navy guard, and Weyand, of the Army, had no equals on the Eastern gridiron this year. Brown was a stonewall on the de fense and a great offensive player as well. Brown, in the opinion of the crit ics. is one of the best placement kick er? that ever donned the moleskin. Weyand all season has shown almost uncanny ability in breaking through h:s opponents’ line and either blocking bunts or dumping a play almost as soon as it started. Gii: low, of Carlisle was the strong est part of the Carlisle line on de fensive pla>, and for a heavy man got down the field faster under punts than any center that played in the East. Ghee at Quarter. Making the selection of the All- Eastern quarter was the hardest task of all. Ghee, of Dartmouth; Ix>gan. of Harvard: Huntington, of Colgate: i’ri hard, of the Army, and Welch, of Carlisle, all are wonderful players— each sceminglv entitled to the honor of bring vailed the best. But an al- most microscopic examination of their records made it seem to us that Ghee is worthy of first choice. Tuere vsas no hesitancy about the fullback Job. Brickley stood head and shoulders over any man that played in the center of the backfteld. Mahan has made a wonderful record this year, and possesses marvelous abil ity as an open field runner. Guyon, the Indian, a terrific Ijne smasher, a great open field runner, a drop kick er. a punter, and a wonderful tackier, completed the backfleld quartet. First Eleven. Merrillat (Army) Storer (Harvard) Brown (Annapolis) . Garlo-w (Carlisle) Weyand (Army) . Hitchcock (Harvard) Hogsett (Dartmouth) Ghee (Dartmouth) . . Guyon (Carlisle) . Mahan (Harvard) Brickley (Harvard) . . Second Eleven. Hardwick (Harvard) Talbott (l'ale) Ketcham «Yale) Marting (Yale) Gaunns (Cornell) ... Ballin <Pnneeton> Wagner (U. of Pennsy Prichard (Army) Whitney (Dartmouth) Spiegel (W. A J.) Calac (Carlisle) Position. End Tackle Guard Center Guard .Tackle End .... Quarter • Left Halfback right Halfback Fullback Position. End Tackle. Guard Center Guard Tackle ivama) . . .End Quarter . Left Halfback Right Halfback Fullback 1 INFIELD Bridwell Is Slipping and Chicago Fans Believe Johnny Can Win Flag With Shortstop. C hicago, tll., Dec 1.—Like a duck Lakes to water, the Chi cago fans are taking to the announcement that there 1? a slight possibility that Joe Tinker will return and play shortstop for Johnny Evers and his ball club ‘Give Ever? Tinker at short and he’ll win the flag in the National League next, year,” is the talk that one hears around sporting circles these days. And, after all. there is a chance that Tinker may. return to the 1 ab» Tinker is willing; Evers is willing- in fact, anxious—and there is n( doubt that President MurphJ would be pleased to have the pepperj Joe back within the Cub fold. Bu) there is one other who must be will* ing for a trade—Garry Herrmann thi president-manager-czar of the Cincin> nati club. But Herrmann is sadly In need oi a first-class catcher and It may that he will rast his eyes Cub wart when looking for a working partner U Clarke. You know Johnny Kllnj is out with his annual retirement no< tices, so Garry will have to lool around and find a first-class receive to assist, Clarke. He can look all around the Nations League circuit and still not do ns wel as he can right here In Chicago. Th> catcher we now refer to is. of course Roger Breenahan. Ever since thi closing of the 1913 season the wlutel league scribes have been trading Rog' er First we had him going to Brook lyn. and as a manager, but whet Wilbert Robinson affixed his Joht Hancock to a Superba contract tha let Bresnahan out. DES JARDIENS L EADS CHICAGO. CHICAGO, Dec 1.—Paul Des Jardiens center rush on the University of Chicag« championship football team, has beej elected captaJn of the 1915 eleven 1 Ban on Willard May Be Lifted To-morrow NEW YORK, De<v 1.—it was an nounced to-<l«y that the suspension of .less Willard by the State Athletic: Com mission, which has been in forep against the T^xas heavyweight since last March, will be raised to-morrow by the commis sion. and Willard will be able to fill his engagement with Carl Morris at the Garden Athletic Club Wednesday night.. Hoping for some 6ueh favorable verdict, both boxers have been in active training for more than a week, so the late action in no way will affect the condition of the men when they step into the ring AFTER POLICEMAN’S JOB John Anderson, once a noted major league first baseman and outfielder, has given up the real estate business at v.'orcester, Mass., and is seeking an ap pointment as policeman. TINKER MAY SELL RANCH. PORTLAND. OREG.. Dec. 1.—Owner McCredle, of the Portland Coast League ! baseball club, is going Into ranching a? a side issue. He has already secured an option on some property owned by Joe Tinker near this city The Cigarette of ** v Quality ■SHONO” COLLINS BUYS HOME. ! PITTSFIELD. Dec 1. — John F. 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