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% THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. r Art Hass Itts Demands, but Love is tlie Lure That 'Pickles the Box Office Man COVERED b KPE Owner of Reds Plans to Dispose of Former Manager at League Meeting To-morrow. By .James Clarkson. C hicago, ill., Dec. 8.—it now begins to look as though the National League meeting to be held In New York to-morrow will be a pretty lively affair after all. Prac tically every club in the circuit will go after the services of Tinker, who will be placed on the market by Garry Herrmann. The Pittsburg Pirates want Joe badly. Tinker admitted yesterday that Clarke was going to land him, al though he did not intimate what the conditions of the trade may be. How ever. .Joe says there is nothing of a sure thing” nature connected with :he possibility of him going to the Pirates. He would be willing to play for Clarke, although he seems to pre fer returning to his first love—the Cubs. Tinker to Bring High Price. The meeting to-morrow night may bring on more trades than we are ex pecting. Practically every manager in •he National League, with the excep tion of McGraw, will be in attendance. There will also be several American League magnates there. • kirk Griffith, who comes out in an interview and says he will not run lower than second next season, will a bid for Outfielder Bates, of the Cincinnati Reds. Griff says he hasn't an idea that he will succeed in making the deal, but nevertheless he’s going to tackle Herrmann. lust who Clarke, of the Pirates, will offer for Tinker is not known. It is reasonable to believe that Herrmann will ask a whole lot when he says to the National League moguls: “Gen tlemen. make your offers.” Tinker cost Herrmann in the neighborhood of f2f),000 in money and players. Five players came to the Cubs via the Reds when Tinker was assigned to the management of the Herrmann tribe. Fo you can gamble that Herrmann will hold Tinker at a high price. How ever. .Joe is worth a high price, and the Reds will no doubt be able to get considerable talent in exchange for him. Evers Leaves for East. Johnny Evers stated when he left here for Troy last Thursday that he didn't think he would attend the meet ing But you can bet that Peppery will be among those present at the confab. And it would not be sur prising to learn that John was armed ith a lot of papers from Charles W. Murphy authorizing him to go the limit to secure the services of Tinker. The American League, despite the fact that it is willing to go the limit with the kale, has no chance of get- • ng Tinker. The National League magnates have all stated that Tinker is too good a ball plaver to let get out of the league. That means that he will shortstop for one of the National League clubs next season. Packey Rules 2 to 1 Choice Over Britton In To-night’s Bout CHICAGO, Dec. 8.—Packey McFar land, the popular South Side boxer, and Jack Britton, the pride of the North Side, both Chicago fighters of Irish par entage, will meet to-night in a ten- round bout before Tom Andrews’ Queensberry Athletic Club, of Milwau kee. in contrast to most fights which have been held in the Badger State since the boxing bill became a law, to-night’s bat Mf should be one worth going miles to The principals have trained hard end faithfully and are in condition to step ten rounds at a lively clip. Mc Farland is in better shape than he has been for any tight in the last six months. He has done considerable road work and has not missed a day in the gym Realizing he must meet one of the best men of his weight in the world. Britton is In the best of shape. Three Weeks of conscientious training has put Jack in tip-top condition. Welsh Would Take Joe Rivers' Place' In Go With Dundee NEW ORLEANS, Dec. 8.—Promoter Tortorich will have no trouble finding a suitable opponent for Johnny Dundee ' nristmas Day, according to a message received yesterday from Freddie Welsh, -nglish lightweight, who telegraphs t.nat he is anxious to meet the Italian ■jghtweight here in a ten-round bout in ? .e event Joe Rivers is unable to keep the engagement. The Dundee-Rivers bout, according to Tortorich. has not been declared yet. Rivers was signed to a set ( ’i articles with the understanding he w °nld release in the event he could not ; match with Willie Ritchie on the :?/' Christmas Day. 1 rtorich says he has not heard from Cevy, Rivers’ manager, requesting « r*Toase from the contract he entered ;• ! '**re recentlj', but expects to know ^finitely within the next day or two. Athletic Club Five Plays Chattanooga Quintet Saturday w„ p Chattanooga Tigers, champion r ‘ thall players of East Tennessee, : Jay the Atlanta Athletic Club in &ighr eCOn< * game °* the s e *son Saturday t-V Tigers defeated every team in tvt ‘ennessee last year, and went ^ ^ugh the entire season without a de- , ’ They have been at work for quite • this season and are now in ex- w a«nt condition. What s a Million, Anyway? By James Swinnerton POLLY AND HER PALS There’s Sometning the Matter With Ashur Famous Yellow Jacket Coach Looks for Very Few Changes HEISMAN TALKS ABOUT 1914 FOOTBALL RULES Wells and Carpentier Will Clash To-night NEW YORK. Dec. 8—Bombardier Wells, English heavyweight champion, and Georges Carpentier, the French titleholder, are scheduled to meet in u twenty-round go to-night at the Na tional Sporting Club, London. Al though both have been knocked out. Wells by A1 Palzer and Gunboat Smith, and Carpentier by Frank Klaus and Bill Papke, there is much rivalry between them. Wells claims he was ill when Carpentier stopped him nearly n year ago in four rounds. They will fight for ari $18,000 purse. GEORGIA APPLES WIN PRIZES. ELLIJAY, Dec. 8.—John W. Clayton, a fruit grower of Gilmer County, has just received a telegram that he won first prizes on four varieties of apples exhibited at the National Apple Show in New York. By J. \V. Heisman. B ASEBALL has become so well crystallized that we hardly ex pect any changes in the playing rules from year to year. But foot ball is a, game which in its nature is bound to go through* a deal more of experimenting before we can say positively that tha very best and most satisfactory rules have at last been evolved. It must be admitted that the ele ment of danger has not been entirely eliminated from the game, nor, for that matter, do I ever expect to see it so. Football is undoubtedly a rough game, and it always will be, else it will ndt be football. But it can no longer be said to be anything like as dangerous a pastime as it was some seven or eight years ago. A number of unfortunate casu alties do still occur each season, but they do not number one-quarter what thev formerly ran to. And we also observe that the very serkms acci dents do not occur on high-grade col lege teams or elevens that have been handled by skilled coaches and train ers. It is tile young boys who go pell- mell into the thing without competent supervision and coaching, or who play against teams very greatly their su periors in weight and strength, that get badly hurt or worse. But the American people have come to realize that many more persons lose their lives each year in hunting, in skating, in swimming, in boating and other sports than succumb in football, and the mad outcry against the game has entirely hushed. We can not hope to make the game much safer, so it is probable we shall see no changes in the rules having for their object the mere elimination of alleged danger. * * * \\J HEN the requirement to gain 10 v v yards in four downs first came into existence, it seemed doubtful whether that was not asking too much of the offense; and, indeed, for the first year of experience under the rule, it did look that way. for there were a heap of games played in which abso lutely no scoring was done, and a lot of tie games were the result. But as the game opened up. and the possibilities that lay in open work unfolded themselves, it became ap parent in the course of another year that teams could force the ball across, and as the players also became more expert in the manipulation of the for ward pass, they forgot to kick about the 10 yards. In the South and the West, where offense long ago took on a mere open and venturesome style, there has been no inability to ' score touchdowns, lienee in these sections it is difficult for players and coaches to understand why the Eastern colleges should see any need for reducing the distance to be gained in four trials. In all fairness, though, it must be admitted that the results of the big games in the East seem to indicate that they have here a real problem to worry over. It will be recalled that in their games with each other, neither Harvard, Yale nor Princeton scored a single touchdown; all the points that were scored in the three games came either bv way of field goals or a safety. And that has been the story for other years than this between these Eastern teams. It may also bo recalled that the Navy has beaten the Army for the three years preceding this one by field goals only. This year, however, the Army not only won the game, but did it by touchdowns, not by field goals. And how came it that the Army did at last succeed in scoring touch downs, whereas the Navy and the other three crack Easlern teams could only execute field goals? We'll an swer that ouestion In just, a minute. Coming back to the contention of Yale, Harvard, et al.. It is claimed that when a team gets the ball down within an opponent’s 20-yard line and that opponent brings up into action its secondary defense, the distance of 10 yards is too great to be ~ ! ned with consistency in four trb’ and there fore it ought to be shortened. Will it be? I don’t think so. These three may vote that way. but they will be outvoted by the repre sentatives of the smaller colleges, who outnumber them. Why not make it five trials at this stage of the game? someone asks. Well, that could be done, but It Im poses too severe a mental and physi cal strain on the defensive team to be thrown on the defensive for so long a time without any chance of relief. How comes it that Yale and the other two can’t score when, seeming- ingly, no other teams seem to expe rience this great difficulty? Two points explain the situation. In the first place, these teams are simply crazy on the subject of defense—and they always have been. While I cheerfully grant that the AV estem ttpams, as a rule, know more about offense than do the Easterners, 1 must say that they are still far behind the Orientals in the matter of repelling attack. This beipg the case, the Eastern teams are better able to stop all mariner of things than are those in the South and West, hence fewer touchdowns. On the other hand, they have been too conservative in handling their of fense, with the result that they have not yet even found out the possibili ties of the open game; hence they think they need a change in the rules. But the open work of the Army team against Navy (in large part taught the former by Notre Dame) shows clearly that even the Navy or Eastern defense does not avail against a mod ern system of attack. So what the Eastern teams need is not a change in the rules, but a change In their of fensive playing systems. This fact will, I think, be borne in on them be fore the committee meets, and the Eastern representatives will find themselves too weak, numerically, to bring about any change in the dis tance to be gained or the number of downs in which to gain it. * * * A ND now field goals have become more common than three-baggers. When one man can tally five of these in one game the thing is getting to a stage where it cuts- altogether too much of a figure. While a very pretty play, it must yet be said that a field goal is not strictly of the real essence of our American game of football, as is a touchdown. And even the non-play ing public have come to see and be lieve this way about it, for did they not hiss each time the Harvard team lined up for a try at another one aft er the first two, $uicl call for a touch down instead? Well, what are you going to do about it? I don't know. I doubt if the committee will do anything about it this year. But before long we’ll find the value of the field goal going down still another point. But when it does they will also have to reduce the value of the goal following touchdowns, for if the field goal is worth only two, certain it is that the goal following touchdown is not worth half as much. So it might very well be that we shall see changes in both these respects even this win ter. I look for some of the old dead let ter rules to be completely excised from the book, and possibly some rule forbidding teams to go beyond their own scrimmage line in the execution of shifts before the ball is put into play. Outside the above points, I see no chance for heavy c hanges of any char acter, nor aer any heavy changes needed. The way the public all over the land patronized the garnee this fall indicates very clearly that they think football a pretty good game now'. Neither have there been any very loud complaints from the coaches or players; and so'we may look for a game in J914 very similar to wiiat. we have been seeing for the two seasons past. i GIBSON THROUGH WITH HEAVIES. NEW YORK, Dec. 8. Billy Gibson, of the Garden Athletic Club, is through with heavyweights for all time to come, according to a statement credited to him to-day. The New York public, he said won’t fall for the big fellows. The Wil- lard-Morris bout was the last straw .IrisJSiUM Opium. Wbl*l*7 »od Dn»C lUhtW *re»te4 » Homs or at 9«nit«Hum. Book on ■Vee. OR. B M. WOOLLEY, 14*N, Vimo$ Sanitaria*, Attests. TOBACCO HABIT £ * nrni« vnnr livalth nrnlnnn uaiip I You can conquer It aslly in 3 day*. 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