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TIIE DEMOCRAT
COLUMBUS, S.ITVRD.IY, 1 f>, l^'O
We observed in <-ur last Mint Governor Gil
jner’s reenF.'ge in character wa« such
as to merit our rfcciJ# approbation. There arc
eeveral points, lvovcver, hhie Iwe wish to except
t'roni this declaration of approval And amci g
tho most important we would notice the great
’jains which the governor takes to exhibit his hos
tility to the general government Although he
feels himself constrained to admit ‘‘tbs* ,l “*
~r . ...re ~101 WHICH fit. exertions otthe pres
ident have been yielded to extinguish the indian
title; end tiie unreserved sanner in which our
rights have been acknowledged, reqniro of the
state the fullest confidenca,” Ac. After
this confessi i), one would suppose that he at
least could have no complaint to enter against
tho operations of tho general government. Yet
nevertheless lie reams to put himself out of his
way to urgecomp'aints and to oxeite a prejudice
against h«r. Now if tho executive officers of the
union, g vc a right exposition to the constitution
and satisfy even the governor in their cxorti< ns
to do justice to Georgia, it would seem as if it
was tho very existence of the government against
which his hostility is directed, rather than a sys.
tcin of policy which might change with a change
of men; for it is plainly enough indicated that the
govet nor wishes to be ranked among the friends
of the present administrat n His hostility
therefore must bo against the government itself
But the govern >r seems perul arly unfortunate in
the subjects which he selects for censure. Slaves
the governor asserts are in general incapable of
any but agricultural labor; and therefore he
thinks the revenue system of the United State s
unjust toward-, the south because it gives pe -
unnent bounties to manufacturing and mechani
cal at the expo se of agricultural labor Admit
ting for a moment that the revenue laws do oper
ato in favor of the mechanic and manufacturer
still the south docs rot thereby suffer, because ex
p notice fully proves, not withstanding the assoi-
Mo'i of the governor, that slaves may be profitably
oinnlo. ed b th in mechan ca and manufacture".
Aml i:' we mistake not the governor himse'f no
longer s<jo than last nesman signed an act prohib
iting their employment as compositors in printing
office* A fact who h shoes that even in the opin
ion es his excellency, there exited no physical
dllhcnl.y in tile way oftlior performing one of the
most complicated operations in the whole round
of mechanics
There seems also to be some little contradic
tion in his arguments on tl.e lottery system Ir
one place ho sa\ s, ‘ the great object to be i fleeted
by the state, in tho appropriation of its lands i*
the increase of its population, and the excitement
of it* people to industry and the accumulation of
"C' l lth." An again ‘lt has always says ho
been f. und trior difficult to r< strain improper ex
pcndituiea arising from u full treasury, than to
obtain through the powers which belong to ih.» (
government, the im ans which may ho reaby re
quired for public puiposea ” Hero one would na.
turnlly suppose that tho govornor considered an
overflowing public treasury us a great evil; \\h le
the accumulation of wealth in the h inds of indi
viduals. was a public benefit. But before be clos
es the paragrapli ho inculcates a different doe
trine “Prodigality, says he, is the usual result
of tiches suddenly and easly obtained. Mines
are like the accumulation ofthe people's money
in the public treasury. Tho government should
manage them for general, and not for individual*
advantage It they should prove exceedingly
profitable, the slate would thereby be enabled to
relieve the people from taxation, improve all 'lie
roads, rendor its rivers navigable, and extend the
advantages of education to every ch.ss of socioty ’
Uore the governor intimates that a full public
treasury would be a very fine thing, while riihes
in private hands would hut promote prodigality!
There are several other subjects about which we
differ from his excellency; and which perhaps
wlieij we have nothing olse to do, we may think it
worth while to notice.
M. n. J £l*de Esq has resigned his interest
in the l-.stablishnient of the Georgia Messenger in
•favor of S. Rose senior editor, who thus becomes
so], editor and proprietor of that respectable Jour
nal.
We confess that the receipt of the following
Tetter, gave us deep concorn; we can assure our
tiier.d, however, and all others upon whom simi
lar circum tanees have mnde a like impression,
that we have set about reforming the evils of
which ho speaks; and that for the future ho will
n t find a town in tho state where both man
and horse will meet with more civil treatment,
and whore they may enjoy more q*.iet repose;
thoic is no nee. ssity at all for canying liis cot
ton to Vlacon; our merchants will give the best
prices and have the money to pay ter it.
Mr Bartlett,
Vrar Sir —No d.-übt you have been expecting
Cio in Columbus bofore th a; and indo.'d 1 have
entertained a strong desire to go down, not only
for the purpose of subscribing to The Democrat
end paying for the same (I always pay {V ray pa
per in advance) as ft >r laying in my supply of su
gar and coffee and salt, Ac and buying a few
things for the old woman and the galls But he
troth is, 1 am jubus of some of thoso wild young
follows you have about your town, and have pret
ty much made up my mind to go to Macon with
my truck. 1 was awfully flustrated the last time
I was in Columbus and as I am rather nervous 1
cover think of that place without feeling my flesh
crawl, and my heart jump again i never turn
Dumple's head (Dumple is the name of my
horse) that way, but what he hicks up and soorts
most tolotiously But he has a reason for it,
«li ch von shall hear Dumple is a most capital
horse, and you inav bo sure 1 was not a little
proud of hnn, more particularly of bis long beau,
tifii' flowing tail, and I te»k hun down to Colum
bia for the purpose of allowing hint off. After
seeing him well sorted down in the stable, I went
invself into the tavern, and you may ho suro I
was well pleased for every body was very civil
und polite, oud think* I to myself, Columbus isa
ye delightful place After supper, thinks Ito
m>! If. I will take a v.alk and sec the town It
TVJ a delightful moonlit oyening, tho murmuring
„f the falls eouT.dcd like soft mimic uolhe car, am.
a cool breeze from the south west, just tempered
the breath of eat ly autumn; and, thinks l to my.
self, it is a beautiful place to live in. In several
ofthe shops I saw people some'.'hat riproiious,
and a little bit of a fight was got up Ben g rath
er nervous, as 1 said before, 1 hastened on; pies,
ently I heard a terrible rorification. and on look
ing round, saw a man come running past me
with his belly ripped open, and endeavoring to
hold his bowels in with both hands, and several
others following closely alter him with Unites
i nnd sticks and bellowing like all po sensed- Not
! knowing what might hsM““> 1 c,n r, und n
| c rncr, and, thinks I to myself, I will get nut of
I the wav, I will go to bcJ So I made fir mv lodg
ings. But happening to pass ky a large house,
and hearing something of a jollfication above. I
was about stopping a moment, >ut I had hardly
time to look up, when smash, stmsh, went one of
the third story windows, and a moment afterwards
down came somebody, plump irto the sand al
most upon me Not exactly knowing his object
in thus coming down upon me in io unceremoni
ous a manner, I took to my heels you may de
pend on it. I gained nty lodgings, crept into bed
and covered up my head in the blanket Thinks
Ito myself, I will go to sleep. But it wouldn't
do. I had hardly got warm in iny nest, before I
heard a loud and tumultuous noise, accompanied
with a terrible explosion of fire arms The Indians i
are upon us, we shall all be 6calped, thinks I to ]
mysolf. I dashed down stairs, and mode fbi the .
stables; if I can but once get upon the back o 1
Dumple, thinks I to myself, I will give any of
their rifle balis leave to overtake me. But on !
getting nto tho streets, instead of Indians, 1 per !
ceived a man enveloped in a wreath of smoke and •
flaine, with more than a thousand crack'-i s fasten
ed to his back, and different pa-t* of Ins deaths, j
and whose continuous exp sions I had mistaken !
for the roar of battallions of musketry They i
had been thrust into his bosom, his pockets, and I
the hinder parts of his inexpressibles, while en j
joying a comfort ble snooze in a favorite lounging '
place, and set on fire. On his awaking amidst ;
the blazing and cracking of the co ohu-tibles, and
the roar of the spectators, he had started off j
hrough the streets, screaming murdei. fire and !
brimstone, liko one pursued by the furies You :
may depend on i, my nerves weie terribly co- j
tlustrated by this spectacle; a.id i ordered the :
waitei to bring out Dumple directly: but instead j
of complying with my request, he stood grinning j
in my face, as rn ch as to say, get him yourself. I
Iv. as about t apply my whip to his shoulders
when I wai told that instead ofthe waiter, the
in'ividiial whom 1 addressed was one of my fellow
lodgers, who had just been blacked in a spree! 1
waited no longer, but bolted for Dumple myself,
sure enough; I jumped into the saddlo.and never
looked behind me till daylight. \\ lion I became
more composed, you may guess how much I was
disconcerted on finding that I had left a certain
article ofrny apparel, necessary to decency, and
that Dumple s tail had been clean shaved, over
and ub- vo anoti.or operation which had been per
formed on him, which it is needle s to mention-
Since that night 1 have never been to Coluinbu g .
neither has Dumple.
1 remain however, truly your.,
JERRY FEARFUL*
FOR THE DEMOCRAT.
Prom the Port t’vtio of u RamlUr.
Few I believe are aware of the e tent of that
direct and controling influence which the female
mind holds over the character and fortunes ot
mankind. Man, as ke assumes for himself the
prouud title oi Lotii id tins lower creation, so i,e
is apt to imagin that he is the master spiiit which
dbectßand controls every thing—that he holds
his lolly course uninfluenced by nferior beings
uncounselled and uncontioled But it is not so*
The most cursory glance at the history of individ.
uals wi 1 show us the impres of female influence
in every situation of life The character oi the
man is to a great degree made up of the examples
and lessons of the mother. The good or ill for
tune of the husband is in a great mcasuro in the
hands of the wife Few men I imagin have ever
risen to greatness, whose minds were not early im
bued with the principles of virtue and incited
witli a thirst after distinction by the lessons of he
mother ; and it seems to me as impossible that a
ruan can successfully struggle with the cares c.f
life, who is unfortunate in the selection of a part
ner, as that the swimmer can successfully s cm
the ruged tnrront wiio carries a viper in his
bosom und wh.ch is constantly knawing at his
vitals.
To illus rate this portion of my argument, 1 will
cite a part of the piivate history of an old acquain
tance whom 1 lately f 11 in with in one of my
ramb.es It had been my hap in travelling thro’
one of the older counties of the state some six or
seven years ago, to stop for the night at a respec
table farmers, whero the extreme regularity and
nicety, of all the arrang ments of the plantation
arrested my attention Every thing appeared in
the most exact order. The and alt appeared ten
ded with the greatest care, the fences in the high
est state of preservation, the horses sleek and fat,
the slock well fed and thriving, the servants well
clad, and cheerful, and mine host himself, roui and
plump and jo ly. I was so well pleased with eve
ry thing around me that I delayed mv journey
several days, as much to enjoy the scene of com
fort and quiet as to rest my horse
Fortune again led me past the samo door bu* a
few ays ago. But oh, haw every thing had
changod, Instead of that snog and thriving ap
pearnnee with which 1 had formerly been so do
lighted, now every thing appeared neglected and
ruinous. The house itself seemed teady to tum
ble down ; fences were out oficpair ; stables and
out-buildings were rotting away ; and the scanty
stock which struggled over the field lookod hun
gry and meagre I was pausing on the thresh
old, debating with mvsclf whether my memory
I had not played me false, when the person of m.
old host plesentod itself bes .re mo. |l Ja face was
the same, full round and plump— yet that look
of cheerful and careless hilarity was wanting.—
Ills brow was wrinkled wilh care, and his voice
was sharp and querulous. ll.h welcome was
equally cordial, and a feeling of curioeity induced
inc again to accept of his hospitality 1 could not
but wonder at the too visible change Mv h*t
CO I found was fully comtemu* (if th, rs V) _„
j v.h. ii i.ad Come over him ana u.i ab tut:’.; b..t
j his penetration was not deep enough to panel: ate
'thscaue “ His luck, he said, had turned” Bu t i
how, or wliy, he knew not. On be ng questioned,.
1 gath red from him the following particulars,!
w hich 1 will r -peat in nearly his own words: —
“1 commenced the world, said he, with just noht
ing at all I had but one shirt and a piece to my !
back when I got matried ; so yon see, 1 had to-j
work or s arve. 1 had been thrown from iny
horse, and broke my leg, and dislocaleJ iny hip— j
and I lav six moths on iny back without b’cing a- ,
ble to stir I had been promised to my wife be- j
fore, and it sort <>' seemed as if we couldn't wait J
any longer ; so Polly just left her people and |
camelioine to me. and we got married. Both our j
paients were mightv poor, and they couldn't af. ;
ford to give us any thing at all; but that didn’t J
make any and fference Wo had neither a bed nor j
blanket ; but it was getting warm weather, and
we didn't mind. Wrented a cabin and a bit of .
land and went to work—as we hadn't a crectur to
plow, wo determined to make it up ourselves ; we
dug up the ground and planted it. Polly took her
hoe and went into the field along with me; and j
! it a sort o' sccncd as if I felt twice as strong
and could do tviee as much work when she was
bv, ilist to showthat [ could beat her. But it was i
I
a tough match she was a little bit of a body-, but 1
lord o' me, she had a heart as big an ox—she was j
mighty spirited \Vc suffered deperateiy for rain i
that year ; but we dug the ground the more; final- j
ly made a very good crop. Polly too, took in some j
cotton on the i-hares, which she spun in rainy ;
weather, and odd times, so that before winter we i
had enough to make a bed and cloths Corn cold j
big. th t .ear; and I was enabled to cell enough j
before sprirg to buy a cow and a ereetnr to p-ow j
Polly by t lxs time had brought mo cur oldest boyi i
and couldr’t help me in tho fold , but mav ho rhe j
didn't keep the wheel and the lo m agoing We
made ano her good crop; and I bought a piece of
land and moved out on tho road I had three j
years to pty fir the land and I worked inigh-'
ty hard o make up tho amount; and in or-!
der to sa e all our money determined to sell every
thing we could spare, and buy nothing at all—and
if we could not make an arliclo within ourselves,!
why we just dne without it In this way we
fudged along together, a id finally made oat to pay j
tor our land and get out of debt. As we lived upon
the road we could always sell our truck fir a !
good price ; and we sometimes took in travellers, i
and turned a penny that way And as we stuck
to oiu resolution ot seiimg all and buying nothing!
every year we gained a little. By and by. we
j bought a negro, and then another, ai dso on. My
| boys go: log enough to work and 1 turned them
i ail in the field i bought more land. Our slock
j mqieased and I began to find niys .If pretty com
fortable. Polly kept oveiy thing as streight as a
Bliiogle within doors, and I and tho boys knocked
away without. In this way we accumulated, and
there were few of my neighbors who kept a snug
er corn crib, or a bettor lined smoke house, as you
may chance to remember. But about five years
ago my luck began to torn. Polly got sick and 1
1 had the doctors to pay ; finally she died. Some
how the seasons were always unfavorable. We
didn’t make as good crops as formerly ; the stock
didn’t do as well ; they got poor and died off
Some flow oi offer. 1 got in debt, and the sheitffs
"*•■<l constables begun to bother tne Every
tlnng seemed to go wrong Our meat always
sp lied in curing The lu gs would bro k into tho
cornfield-., and the woods g ,t afire and our fences
burnt down anu in short, it seems as if we must
ail come to poverty. My present wife is a mighty
good sort of a woman, 1 set a heap of store by
her ; but body o’rne, she isn’t like lather one foi
keeping every thing streight.’’
Phut ended the old man’s story; and it was ea
sy lo perceive that every thing had indeed altei ed
with him His luck had indeed changed. But
how ? His misfortunes might all be summed up in
! a very few words He had lost his w i;e—That,
j kind and tru friend who had so long watched over
his interest; whose avgus eyes had been around
, and about his household ; whose ever sleeplrss
j vigdenee was over ill his affairs, and who had
| even infused a pottion of her own ardent and
. active spict who has more lethargic frame, had
1 departed from him. The dull and heavy temper
j of mu e host, when the animating principle -vhich
i had so long inspired, it was withdrawn, became
! incco.npeteut lo the management of his busines
with thcfaccust mied success His work was al
ways behind hand; his seeds wore sown at tho
wrong time, and his fields were badly tilled. H:s
stock were neglected, and the f ot-teps ' f ruin
wen every where visible. Yet he was not aware
that Ire had abated in the le ist of his usual indus
try ; he worked he said, as hard as ever. But as
he had never teit the influence of his consort over
his conduct or affairs, so he was now slow in per
ceiving the wa.it of it.
Gen. D. It \\ illiams positively refuses
to net as Governor of S. C and C l. J
CheMiui, ol C .inden, whose popularity m
Die upper ili-ti icts is considerable, is spoken
of for that office, Carolina, to put the fi
nal seal of reprobation on Nullification,
owes it to her consistency to place m y ot
hoi respectable citizens, other than James
Hamilton, JunV. in her Executive Cuair.
VV| hope the di-interested conduct of Judge
Huger aud J~m .> L Pmtigru, who liteiv
thieiv <£f then coats and rolled up their
sleevps, to fight tiio Nullifiers, will meet
with clistiugiiinhed homes m their native
Sine. Sich citizens are the salvation of
every country, should be their pride.
~ , ( Ale g- Oar
We onutc'l to notice (says the United
S'.-iten Telegraph of the 21st j,, S |.) ,h, ; arri
val in this City of Gov. Brown, and Doctor
Hamm, Represent, Hives of this Govern
mem, near Dios.- of Brazil and C’litli—Doc
lot Ilainm, having received Ills instructions,
is now in New York, whence hr will sail
in a few days fir Chili.— G v. Brown is
now here, and on his way to Brazil
Spain* The Editois of iho N. Y. Daily
Anvoi user have ben: favored from n higlf
l> r» specia le source with an extract of a
Idler, dated Liverpool, Sept 3f.
“In consequence of an understanding 1
within Spain and without, it is expected'
that u C.nsi it ut ion a I movement will tike i
luco by the last mouth, and that nil the p i. ;
rustles and oppressors *vill ho p Ut .Jowit,*’
Cca.'.,•• J Legislature. —Fiom the to
c ctiitigs of until bi duclies of the Genera!
Assembly cur readers will perceive that
riot'inig of importance lets been as yet done.
The ci imiiittee nn the Slate t-f the Repub
lic is deeply engaged upou the business
confided lu theru it is with anxiety tin
people arc wailing for tho resu t of it- de
liberations. Tiie Cherokee question is one
which is of vital interest to Georgia ; uni
which should not be lightly approached and J
examined. The conimil.ee which has tni
question under its care, is composed of scum j
of tiie best talents ol the legislature : it is j
therefore expected that the polity it will
recommend, will he founded oil prudence
wisdom.
Another subject of importance, and
w hich has been iutiusted to a select com
mittee, is tlie reorgoniz liton of the judicial
circuits cf the State. The im qu <|i(y of their
present orgamz ttiou, is so mauifes', that the
legislative could nut avt id to take tho sub*
ject uoucr consideration, and endeavour to
apply a leiuedy to the evil. ,N.i doubt the
committee will discharge its duty faithfully,
and place all the citctnts on a more equal
footing than at present.
'I he subject of altei ation in tire legislative
branch ol li.u government, is regards the
number ol tm tiiuers, is also under the it:ve->
ligation ot a committee
Tne legislature have much to do : bu
liny have plenty linto to despatch all tm
business before them with credit to the
members and benefit to the State some
time before Christmas.
[lt, cord.tr
From a letter in the Taimyr-(N. Y.)AJ
vc itise., we select some paiticul-rs ol a re
cent evident sit Rochester. “We had a
dreadful ne list night at Mr. Penny's
Church. M Penny was to preach there,
and toe house wt- crammed ti totally full.—
M lute All. Penny was making the pravet
oefore commencing the rxeictse a piece of
timber over head gave vv iy and fell upon
be plastering and knocked it elf; making
a noise like a sudden hoisting rs ihurdri.
lit an instant the whole cotig,< gation ms-,
j nd here the scene beggais all d< script>o,
i A general .'-creaming and rushing tow-are
j he door followed, and hundreds were ti am-
I d down, rtioso silting neai tho window
' below, stove tl»i in though and went nut;
i three men jumpied, though excessive frigii
from the galleries into the body of th-.
church—aud one man vety much iujtnoi.
another heU w, by jumping on him Then
wt-to U‘ it ki le.r—but a great many iiuit.—
One hall i.fihe females had t über lust th-. .i
shoes, shawls, combs, bonnets necklaces
or handkerchief:;—and such an ai.x ety a*
tuosc iii.iiuf." ' j who were out was terri
ble. 31 it it .is were crying ‘Oh! where
ue my c lie ree,’ and chihhen inquiring in
•> ns 1 t thou mothers, «fce.— One man
politic, iff onied from the gallery w-indt w
to the is. und J was sitting in the galleiv
in i.i , • unli the ministers, and could see
ah. Ah itioividual supped forward an.,
cried lo Dio top of his Inngs, no danger! o
prevent those below from trampling ... e -
n-'iher to death. But it nid no go.-d. I ima
gined the roof would tall instantly—and
On ! .1 li Im.l, « 1,.,« a sa.-r.fico would h.iVi
been there! ! My neives tremble whet. 1
think ot it. One u>m;m had lo r aim
brakeo, and many weie b ully bruised, le.
being trampled ort. O.i the whole, we
hav« great cause of thankfulness for tm
pit servant i). Undoubtedly all th it saved
us w s getting up so quick. A committee
have examined the chuith to-dav— they
It ve fonnd new cracks in the w ills, aim
It.ve condemn, and the chttt-r It : It is to be
torn down and rebtifli, on another spot.”
rim total number of inhabitants in
I Chari' ston S C. liv a recent census i.iken
s compil'd ed at 30 289. i’* niciease dur
" g l he [i s ten years 5 509.
I rtF.vcu 'ujffereks. l’hc contiibutions
'biained in, ami r omuiices made from
1 hi, •litlphni, ii the* »uflorets by the recent
co fl cis m I’m is, .mo uut to 20,140 francs,
wuereoi 5,0.0 ft ants were fmiosoed by
\ Otic in iiviiiuhi 1 1 one*# l iifs f however, is
111.1 p, n lent if .he sums subset ib< and ihroug
me Consulate of France, by French gei.
tleuien.
I.iem. S.nds, Mus. K E. V. Robins n,
Dr. W. Joiinaon, ami AI . \V 11. Pen.il -
tor, iiave arrived ai N. York font B z ,\
having been sent home iit consequ, jjee ~!
being coiueiued in the duel, in which D.
11. W. B 'ssui wa>ki!.p'j,
Fullm, who übsc.i oml with § 10.000 ol
the funds of the United St ms Branch
uitnk at Boston and afterwards surrendered
it, as been tried in the U. States Couit,
and '.anieticeil to pay a find of fifty dollars,
ami bo imprisoned m ttie Boston jail for two
years al hard labor #
I H f *M ' tnuAt.TAK. — Gibraltar papers to
tile 1 Dll ol S» (Member have been received
ai B .ston. They confirm the account ( .|
the hoisting of the tri-colored fl ,g at A
-and adds that the Ftencli troops hau
evacuated Bona, and left the (.face in
charge i f the Governor, on his paving a
yearly tiibute, as was agreed upon with the
Roy of Oran. Gen. Bourindnt was wait
mg at Algiers f. r his successor, (General
Cl 'use I) who, lie had been effii.ally ■
formed liom home, would shoitiy reliev*
liim. Tlie Arabs from the interior contin
ued in a hostile attitude at no preu dis
t .nco horn the town. More treasuro was
otinsiuiii.l y discovered, and fl lo tot„i
at", unt of wh it had already b«. JU f oullll
said to be very considerable,
Tl.e law for ptiuuni .g the return t.
, of those who had peen banished In
H»»! law of the 16 h J muary 1516, ands,,
th« restoration of their piopertv, was nas
sed on the Ist Sept, * *
A Po'i Often has been rstaWished i.
J. nks Bu lge, Bryan Ceu uy, Charles
\ nn.ly, Esq. Post Master,
LEGISLATURE Ol- GEORGIA.
HOUSE OF KEFU&SENTATIVES,
Tuesday October 21.
CHEROKEE LANDS.
At°r the reading of the Journal, t ,e
speaker remirKed that Mr. \V .-Ifird’s re -
■lution in relation to the survey of ihu
C ieiouee 1 inds was befme the house Li
the appointment of a committee.
Mr WcfTuid rose and stid he would of
fer a su stitute which was to this iftect
that a committee be appointed to join tho
like committee from tne Sena e to take im,
consideration so much of tire Governor’s
Message as relates to the survey of the
Cherokee lands, with leave to report by biil
or othei wise.
Mr. II lytics remarked that lie thought
the disposition of the house seemed to bu
yesterday to make the reference to tho
joint committee on the State of tire Re
public. It had b-eu moved to lay the r< s
olutioti on the table fur the purpose of refer
ing the subj ret to that committee. 11.- 1; i J
introduced a notice for a committee to pre
pare and report a lull on the subject at
»nce, but as many geot.etr.r-ti thought that
ue proper committee, was the joint .stinti
ng committee on the Slate of tiie Repub
lic, he was content to iot it take ihal
course.
Mr. Wofford remarked that he did net
knowhow the gentleman from Hancock
knew the wish ol the house tu give the sub
ject that reference'. I know; said be, that
■,uch a disposition was manifested bv setnn
gentleman. 15 *t he hoped the house would
pursue the course in such cases. \' hen
a survey was to bo made u was a member..
It is wi ll known that there is usuully a
large mass of business referred to that coni*
m-ttee This nouse has seme feeling on
mis subject, and his object was to have a
,committee tc investigate tho whole matter
at an em ly day, and fetch it before the
egislatu e in a shape proper to be acted on,
and -hat every m m might vote on it as ha
• ought best- lit had some feeling on trta
subject, and therefore he urged it.
Mi. Hudson rentalked that the question
►as no important one, and if tile lact v> s
’--item that we hail tiie right to survey, thu
lurse pointed out by tho resolution was t’ u
■ toper one. But ho appealed to the good
nse of eveiy gentium.in, whether there
vas not an enqt iry now going on, whether
■%e had the r gtit or not. Refer tho sui>
ject to large joint standing committee, and
that committee will collect the facts as tc
the ngtit of tiie survey ; and if that right be
found to exts 1 , thru the course of the g'-n*
Inman from II bersliam is correct. But
it we think we have the riglit.it is due to
the people of the U. States, that cur reasons
should be laid before them. He hoped the
subject would be referred to the committee,
on the State of the Republic The ques
tion involves no) the single point of survev,
nut rather a system of measures. The
whole sin uld bn combined and arranged,
’ogi tlrer - itli tin lacis rid reasons tin w liich
they are loin (led, so that w hen n biil is re*
ported, the mesons :or it should be repoi ted
with and go before the people for their
satislui ticii,
M, Murry hoped tint from the expression
of the bouse yesterday the diihculty would
be easily g >tlen over IF, was able, lie
thought, now to bring the question in such
a shape as Wool) embrace his own views,
mi the vie -.vs ( f other gentlemen. ll'- had
ta ' ii up s--me resolutions which would not
only cover that particular object, but the
whole of the Govenrno’s 31essnge. This
was in conformity with tho usage of tho
house, and was due to ilie Message itselL
IF. therefore offered his resolutions ns a
substitute for the one on the tabio.
The Speaker decided that it was not
now in o der.
Mr. Wofford remarked that lie was r.p»
prised of ti.e n,flounce of the opposers ot his
resolution. But ho thought their reasons
| wore Die ve.y reasons why it should be a
[dopled. His object was to have the sub
ject iln i,uglily investigated. Where will
me committee origiuate f Will not the
speakei appoint them. And cannot he ap
point those whose immediate duty it will be
He was on the committee
on Dm Slate of the Republic. And he
mew the usual course with that commute©
'.T-t refer subjects to sub-committee—-
" her.' they are kept fur some time. Hij
nj. ct was to bring the subject before the
.mum at once.
Mr. Ryan remarked that as to the right of
■in vey, he thought there was no doubt.
Fo mm it appeared to be a question of ex
pediency altogether. It had been well ob
eyed by the gentleman from Putnam, *hat
.iiformation was necessary for persons at a
distance.—The whole subject should be
mauaged with great caution; and after a
<if*cisinn is had upon it, it should be pursued
with energy. As to the proper committee,
he thought it should take the usual course.
Hie main object was to ascertain the sense
of tho house. There wet© a number of
matters so intimately connected with the
-object, us to make it dangerous to carvd
them out to different committees. Thfl
subjects were so blended (bat they
ould not well be separated. The com
'mttee on the State of tho R> pubic, be
bought,should be charged with the whole
subject.
Mr. Dougherty remarked that lie thought
the house should pursue precedent—lay
bo resolution on the table for the'pris
til, and when it is called up, the gentleman
bum Lincoln can offer his substitute cover
eg the whole Message. lie thought tho
views if thu gentleman from Warren were
ted, while those id tho gentleman from
• I ibersliaui were without foundation. Ho
.olds that if we refer it to the joint ntnnd
ug committee on the Stnte of Die Ropub
>>-, would lose lime. Nmv 1 would ask,
id JVlr. D. what obligation von linvo on
n. member ot this house or of an) com
•tulieo, but Ins sen e of duty to llte house,
‘•id to »ho country. By what aurtti rii?