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Score Will Be From 1 to 3 Touchdowns to 0
By J. \V. Heisman.
r T’X HE only mill down on the
I Southern slate for tomorrow
is the one between Auburn
and the Commodores.
This game will not only decide
the championship of the South, but
probably also it will settle which
t"atn shall rani; Second, for it is
likely that Auburn will defeat
Georgia on Thanksgiving day, and
more likely still that Vanderbilt
will do the same thing for Se
wanee.
A comparison of the weights of
the two teams shows a slight edge
in favor of Vanderbilt. Team ex
perience indicates a stand-off,
though perhaps Auburn has a shade
the better of the figures here. Speed
in the back field must go to Van
derbilt's side of the ledger. The
prestige of past performances, both
this year and in previous years, is
clearly with the Commodores, while
the matter of physical condition
points toward Auburn. The play
ing grounds are neutral.
A consideration of the foregoing
facts does not clearly point out a
winner; so we must go further.
Vanderbilt’s running game is con
siderably ahead of Auburn's, but
the Commodores are almost as tar
behind the Alabamians when it
comes to the bucking game. It
seems certain to my mind that the
Vanderbilt backs are going to
make* Hiibstantial gains around Au
burn's ends, for they did it even
against Harvard.
Is it equally certain that Auburn
Is going to make headway through
Vanderbilt's line?
No; not equally certain—despite
the tremendous driving power of
the Auburn back field.
Why not?
Because Vanderbilt's line is
heavy enough and its charging and
tackling good enough very nearly
to match it. Excellent as is Au
burn’s drive and power, it must
not be lost sight of that they only
scored once on Mississippi A. & M..
and that was by a long end ran by
Newell. Against L. S. V. they fared
no better, making only one touch
down. and that not by bucking, but
because the left end carried the
ball for a rather long run.
Was Donahue Possuming?
The question arises, therefore,
may not Donahue be holding his
light under a bushel'.’ Might they
not have scored <nor< had they
chosen so t<> do? Yes; that is quite
possible, for Donahue has been
playing tl>< patient, waiting game
the whole season In anticipation of
this game. Auburn is not likely
to show many new and effective
plans; but it Is fairly possible that
they could have scores more points
with, the plays they used had they
seen fit to do so.
When it comes to punting. Au
burn. with Majors to propel the
pigskin, has all the better of it over
Vanderbilt; while tin- latter is un
doubti dy Auburn’s superior when
it comes to i’orwa d pissing. It
must not be overlooked, however,
that Vanderbilt is considerably bet
ter fortified than tuburn in the
matter of goal kicking from the
field; and such a play In such a
game is likely to b. the deciding
factor, a» It has been in many an
other game this seas, u
Here's Vandy's Edge.
The departments of play thus far
considered show, 1 should say. a
very slight margin in favor of the
Commodores, but hardly enough on
which to base a sure prognostica
tion in their favor. Now how. ver,
we Come to the last item needing
consider; 1 tion, and here the disp >r-
Ity between the tea.ue has been q. -
cldedly marked—»o much so th .’ I
am inclined to think tnat the rsu'.t
of the game will turn upon this
very point. I refer to the tackling
I will not mince matters. In Au
burn'-. game in Atlanta the p’ay
* s tackled wi vtchi dly, and my un
derstanding Is P at they have been
W-- d; in th I,
son. It is true, sufficient time has
elapsed since then for the Aubum
ites to have overcome this fault,
and perhaps they have done so.
Vanderbilt, on the other hand,
has been a fine tackling team the
whole season. Their defense has
been irrepressibly fierce and eager,
and even against Harvard they
plunged in so valiantly that they
met with severe penalties. In the
end, this ambition will count heavi
ly. despite the probable infliction of
penalties; and I think It reason
able to suppose that this same abil
ity to "pile in" is going to turn the
tide in Vanderbilt’s favor.
But just one more point. The
great Hardage Is i.ot in the best of
shape. And don't you know that
Auburn is going to hit him like a
ten-ton truck every time they can
get near enough to do it? They
can not have forgotten that Hard
age was once theirs, and that he
has. so to speak, gone over to the
enemy. Y’es; they will surely have
the smash against this Individual
whether they have It against the
whole Vanderbilt team or not.
By this 1 do not mean at all that
they are going to attempt any
thing in tile least unsportsmanlike
with Hardage. I am perfectly con
fident they are not. But, wholly
within the bounds of legitimate
football roughness, they are going
to do their best to impress the
Vanderbilt captain with certain odd
moments of the game which he will
be apt to remember till Monday
morning, anyway.
Remember, though, that Vander
bilt still played grand ball all the
way through against Harvard, even
thougli their captain had to leave
that game in the second quarter.
The verdict?
Vanderbilt, I think, by one touch
down surely, and probably by two:
perhaps by three. No score for
Auburn. Don't forget the tiny
Tech team made 19 first downs on
Auburn, rushed the ball 373 yards,
and pushed it over for the only
touchdown that has been scored
against Auburn this year. If Tech
could do it once, Vanderbilt can do
it twice or oftener.
TH REE-RING SHOW AT ”
ATHENSON THURSDAY
ATHENS. GA„ Nov. 22.—The
Georgia team, after enjoying
a few lays rest following the
bard game with Tech, has resumed
practice again, and between now
ami Thanksgiving Coach Utuniing
liam will reorganize both his at
tack and defense for the battle with
Auburn.
The play er.-, came out of the game
Saturday in good shape, most of
them a bit bruised up, but none of
them injured tn any extent Bow
den contracted a chai ley horse Sat
urday night, but several days rest
at his home at McDonough has
put him In practice again and. bar
ring injuries, in the next ten days
the Bed ami Black machine should
be going at a great clip in the an
nual battle with the Alabama Polys.
It is the first Georgia-Auburn
HOLLENBACK SLATED TO
BE PENN’S HEAD COACH
PHILADELPHIA, Nov 22. —Bill Hol-
J Irnback. former all-American fullback, Is
slan.t to succeed Andy Smith as bead
"io h of the I’nlversity of Pennsylvania
,next year
JAPANESE BILLIARDIST
WINNER IN PLAY-OFF
NEW YORK, Nov Kodji Yamada,
tin .lap mese cueist, defeat a lira Morn
ingstar. 500 to in the play-off for
third ola- i in the championship 18..' balk
lino billiard tournament.
TIGERb WILL ELECT BAKER.
PRINCETf >N, N. J Nov 22 "H ey 1
I Baker, the Tiger’s wonderful halfback. Is
slater! for the captnlnv.' • •!’ " 1’; eleven.
THE ATLANTA GEOWHAN AND NEWS FRIDAY. NOVEMBER 22. 1912.
The Tech-Georgia game is over.
The preponderance of weight did
the trick, as I said it would do. But
tlie Geoigia team played much the
best game it has played this sea
son. Just a point or two:
Tech had scored a clear touch
down when the Jacket runner
dropped the ball across Georgia’s
goal line. He did not drop it be
cause he was fiercely tackled, or
anything of that sort. Not a Geor
gia man was even touching him. It
was just greenness. That’s been
the way with the team all this
year—nervy, but nervous. Tech
had W'orked it up there and over,
not by any fluke or r>y one single,
long, break-out run, but by steady
driving, play after play, from their
own reception of the kick-off.
Tech’s 1 play was worth tfiat touch
down.
It Is also a pity that a Tech man
was off-side when Georgia made a
last try at a touchdown in the sec
ond quarter. His being off-side af
fected the particular play not In the
slightest, for McWhorter was pulled
down by another Tech player from
behind his interference, so that it
would have cut no figure whatever
whether the off-side man crumpled
this interference or not. In cases
where the particular foul plays no
part in the play as It transpired it
is no longer customary for officials
to call it (excepting unsportsmanly
play), and it would, in the particu
lar case in hand, have served the
ends of equity better not to have
called it. although the official was
undoubtedly within his rights in
doing so. But on the strict merits
of the playing at that time Georgia
should not have scored just then.
In other words the score of the
game does not at all fairly express
or represent the game that Tech
put up. Instead of three touch
downs to none it should have been
two to one in favor of Georgia: for
that is really the kind of game the
public witnessed.
Georgia is coining strong now
and Auburn will have to watch out
on Turkey day; the Athenians are
at last using their talent, and using
it well.
game ever played on the local grid
iron. and will draw thousands of
spectators to the ( lassie City.
In addition to the Georgia-Auburn
game in the afternoon, the title for
the state championship in prep
ranks will be decided in the fore
noon. when the Georgia Military
college, of Milledgeville, meets
Riverside, from Gainesville. Both
of these teams are couched by
Georgia men, and neither has been
defeated Illis year.
Iti addition to this morning game,
there is also to be a road race run,
under the auspices of the track
team that is being reorganized at
Georgia now for work next spring.
The run will be for three miles out
Lumpkin Hili and around Milledge
avenue There are alreadv eighteen
men who me training, while fully
thirty w ill enter.
G. SMITH AND JACK TWIN
WRESTLE FOR 10 ROUNDS
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Smith, the California heavyweight. and
Jack (Twin) Sullivan, fought ten rounds
last night at the Broadway annex.
M’CUR BEATS ANDREWS
KA CINE. WIS . Nov 22 Freddie An
orews. the Milwaukee bantam weight,
was outgeneraled and outfought in a ten
round bout with Mattie McCue, of Kacine,
here last night. McCue was the aggres
sor and from the start landed telling
blows on his opponent, who was ready
for th** referee to halt the bout when the
final gong sounded.
NAVY’S GOAT DIES.
ANN X i’< ’LIS. Nov 22. Bill, for many
' the goat mascot it the Middles. 1.-i
dead An Angora <at will replace him in
*’ e X’ojx Navy game X- .ember 30.
ENGLISH-MOTTO
SCRAP MW ENO
WITH 110.’
YOUNG MOTTO and Clarence
English hook up tonight at
the Dixie Athletic club in a
ten-round bout. At least that is
the way the advance notices read.
But both of the young mixers claim
that the affair will end long before
the tenth spasm. As both are good
husky gents, with a kick, it is not
unlikely that one or the other will
take the count.
Motto has been showing up sur
prisingly well in his work-outs and
he will have a big following at the
ringside tonight. English has al
ways given satisfaction here, his
fight with Jimmy Perry last spring
being the best bout ever staged in
Atlanta.
The semi-windup between Frank
Baker and George Lavelle should
be a bear. These two boys fought
six rounds to a draw the other
night and it was a pippin affair,
too. Tonight they are scheduled
to go eight rounds. The extra pair
of sessions should be enough to de
cide which is the better man.
Mike Saul and Clarence Collins
meet in a six-round bout. And
there will also be a battle royal.
YALE PLANS TO USE
SUBS AT START; SAVE
REGULARS FOR LAST
NEW HAVEN, CONN., Nov. 22.—With
both teams on edge and both eager for
the battle, only light signal drill was
scheduled for the Yale and Harvard
squads today, in preparation for their
annual gridiron clash, which takes place
on Yale field tomorrow.
The Harvard eleven, which is now quar
tered here. Is brimming with confidence.
Odds of 10 to 6, and in some cases 10 to
5, are being offered. Coaches are well
pleased with the work of the team, and
with Britkley’s toe in excellent shape they
look for victory.
On the Yale campus, confidence is not
so pronounced. The team has shown
great improvement during the week, the
work of the linesmen has been perfected
and a number of trick plays have been
mastered.
Yale coaches have announced their in
tention of using the subs freely, figuring
that this will give the regulars a chance
to rest up for the final quarter.
COBB BACK FROM TRIP
DOWN SAVANNAH RIVER
AUGUSTA, GA., Nov. 22.—Ty Cobb
and a party of friends returned today
from a trip down the Savannah river,
where they have been hunting for sev
eral days.
The baseball star says that the game
in the Savannah swamps is . not as
plentiful as it was last year, although
Tyrus and party bagged a large number
of squirrels and ducks.
Ty is having an easy time and en
joying life. He is not worrying about
coming to teims with President Navin,
for should Ty decide not to play ball
any more he will be in fine condition
for the remainder of his life, so far as
this world's goods are concerned. Ty
is probably worth SIOO,OOO, and Mrs
Cobb's father is worth nearly $1,000,000.
ROURKE OF OMAHA NOT
IN FAVOR OF OUTLAWS
OMAHA, NEBB . Nov 22 William
Rourke, president es the Omaha base
ball club, said today that he is opposed
to the formation of an “outlaw'' league
“1 am in full accord with President
O'Neill,'' said Rourke “I do not see
how such a league would be a financial
success."
CHAMPIONSHIP EMBLEMS
LOST HERE BY DERRICK
Claud Derrick is shy two world's
championship medals, a couple of half
carat diamonds, a pocketbook and a few
such tilings, as a result of his trip to
the Tech-Georgia game.
Whether he was “frisked'' or whether
he dropped the junk, he does not know,
but he tears the worst To be on the safe
side, he has offered a reward. The tinder
should notify him at Clayton, Ga.
TIGER TEAM BANQUETED.
NEW Y<>RK. Nov. 22.—The Princeton,
alumni will gh• a banquet at the .Mar
tinique hotel tonight in honor of the IM2 I
orer eleven.
Betting Is That Vandy Wins By Two Touchdowns
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Commodores May Be Ripe For a Trimming Now
By Percy 11. Whiting.
THE betting on the Vanderbilt-
Auburn game here in Atlan
ta seems to be that Vander
bilt will (or will not, depending on
which end you take) beat Auburn
by two touchdowns.
And it’s brisk.
Apparently It is all a question of
how many of Vanderbilt’s men are
out of the game because of injuries
and what sort of condition those
who do play are In.
TT will be recalled that the only
time Vanderbilt ever lost a game
to a Southern team conditions had
framed themselves much like this.
The Commodores had made their
season for a big game in mid
season (with Michigan, if our
memory serves). Several of the
men were injured in this game and
most of the rest went stale. Then
when the game with Sewanee came
the Commodores didn’t have the
punch.
A good deal the same thing has
happened now. The Commodores
tried to get fit for the Harvard
game. They didn’t work it, how
ever. But at that they got In the
best condition of the season. In
the Harvard game several of the
men were injured and the brightest
star of them all, Hardage, was so
badly hurt he may not be himself
again this season. Since then sev-
French Boxing Authorities to
Give Billy Papke Diamond Belt
By Ed. W. Smith.
HE French boxing authorities
| are about to present Billy
Papke, of Kewanee, 111., with
a gold and diamond belt, suitably
inscribed with the words “Cham
pion of the World." Wouldn't that
be enough to send the other Amer
ican flghte-s off Into a towering
rage?
We think it will and we imagine
further that there will be many a
strong letter of protest sent out
from this side of the Atlantic as to
what right, etc., etc., etc.
But, believe us, Papke and his
manager, Al Lippe, are making the
most of a nice situation in Paris
and are frying the fat out of the
occasion and doing a neat job of it.
Other countries may storm and rage
and say that the French, who never
had a world's champion fighter and
w ho have been in the boxing game
but a matter of a few' months, have
no right to do this, the fact re
mains that It Is to be done.
Papke Beats Champions,
Papke knocked out Jim Sullivan,
the champion of England, a short
time ago, and followed this up by
knocking out the French idol,
Georges Carpentier, or making him
quit, which is about the same thing.
That was enough for the French,
and th* belt is now in the hands of
a jeweler and will be finished early
next month for presentation to
William when he boxes the next
time in France.
This news goes to show that we
were misled by the reports from the
other side to the effect that Papke
was extremely unpopular over
there and might be ruled out alto
gether. Evidently the French are
not as unfair as that
Klaus Declines Match,
Incidentaly, Frank Klaus is not
going to box Papke next month In
Paris. That news Is contained in a
letter from l.ippe. who. after tell
ing us all about the big belt, goes
on to say:
".More tough luck for us. Klaus
has refused point-blank to tight
Papke here. Everything was all
rig -.t until y. sterdaf, when it was
... < forfeit. Neither
eral men seem to have gone stale.
And the consequence is Vander
bilt faces a hard game with a
strong team in no good condition
for the test.
Unless Vanderbilt utterly out
classes Auburn—which nobody'
really believes—the game should be
close. It wouldn’t be utterly flab
bergasting if Auburn got away
with it. The truth is that, though
the Commodores have lost but one
game in the South under McGu
gln’s coaching, they have had some
close calls. In another game it
took a miracle in the shape of a
forward pass of gigantic propor
tions to get the Commodores
through alive. They CAN lose.
Maybe this Isn’t the time, but, of
course, their number will eventual
ly be taken. Possibly Saturday Is
the eventful occasion.
« • •
ItP here we get in the way of
V thinking that Vanderbilt, Au
burn, Georgia Tech, Sewanee,
Clemson, Alabama and the two
Mississippls are about the only col
leges in the S. I. A. A. But they
aren’t. Not quite. Witness this
from Kenneth Todd, formerly of
Macon, but now of Houston, a sport
writer of just renown:
“Here is a tip worth something,
perhaps, in summing up later on.
“Texas A. & M., located at Col
lege Station, Texas, is a member of
Klaus nor Engle, his manager,
showed up and didn't even send an
apology. They were offered $3,500
for a losing and $5,000 for a win
ning fight, exceptionally good terms
over here. The papers here are
roasting Klaus terribly, and he may
yet be shamed into the bout. But
I know he doesn’t want it.
Big Bouts in Sight.
"In the meantime they have given
Papke a match with Dennis Ber
nard. the French boy who lately
defeated George Gunther, the
American colored middleweight,
over here. The bout Is set for De
cember 20 and surely will draw
well. They are trying to get some
body for Bill for January and Feb
ruary dates. Moreau and Carpen
tier box January 15 for the French
title and Papke will get the win
ner in February at Monte Carlo.
The lesser fights net us $4,000 los
ing and $5,000 winning, but the
Monte Carlo match will double
those figures, I’m sure
"Papke boxes in Paris December
*4, so I had to cancel a lot of Eng
lish music hall time at $650 a week.
But we will get eight weeks of it
at least iater on.
Wants to Box McGoorty.
"What’s the matter with Eddie
McGoorty coming over here to box
Bill? He could get more money
here than he could in America, and
the trip surely would pay him well.
They are talking about making
Mike Gibbons an offer, but are
waiting to see how he comes out
with Eddie.
'We would like to catch .Mc-
Goorty foi a side wager, as we feel
confident of trimming him."
NEAR-BREAK OF NECK
DOES NOT PROVE FATAL
ALMA, MICH., Nov, 22.—Instead of
having sustained a broken neck in last
Saturday s football game, as was re
ported, Captain Johnson, of the Alma col
lege eleven, escaped with a few bruised
ligaments. He was able today to walk
about the campus unaided.
RUTT ENTERS SIX-DAY RACE.
NEW YORK. Nov. 22—Walter P.utt,
German cycling champion, is the ninth
European to enter the six-.lay bike rec*.
tha‘ starts here December !>.
the S. I. A. A. She was not a
member last year, but during the
season of 1911 defeated Auburn;
Texas varsity- also won from Au
burn. Unfortunately, Texas A. &
M. does not meet Auburn this fall;
neither does Texas varsity.
"Texas A. & M. defeated Hugo
Bezdek’s Arkansas eleven, 27 to 0.
in Dallas.
"Last fall Texas varsity won
from Texas A. & M., but lost to
Oklahoma. This season Oklahoma
has won from Texas varsity. 21 to
6; so the really big game left for
these parts was A. & M. and Okla
homa.
"Last year Oklahoma was South
western champions by virtue of
having easily disposed of teams
that crushed Auburn.
"You would appreciate seeing
the A. & M. team in action.”
O UR suggestions for a change In
schedules of Georgia football
teams has drawn a response from
Cole Morgan, a student alike of
football situation and of sched
ules In general. He offers two
“ideal schedules," and then gives
his reasons for the selection. Says
Mr. Morgan;
Tech Schedule.
~„? cto / b ® r J— Tennessee in Knox
ynlle (National Conservation ex
position period).
lanta° ber 11 —Chattanooga in At-
October 18—Mercer in Macon
(Georgia State fair week)
October 22—Auburn in Mont
gomery (Alabama State fair
week).
October 25—Sewanee in Atlanta
Co^umb?a ber I_B ° Uth Carol,na
November B—Clemson in At
lanta.
November 15—Vanderbilt in
Nashville.
November 22—Alabama in At
lanta.
November 27—Georgia in At
lanta (Thanksgiving day).
Georgia Schedule.
Chattanooga. 4 ~ Chalta
October 11—-Tennessee In Ath
ens.
October 15—Mercer in Macon
(Georgia State fair week).
October 18—Clemson in Athens.
October 25—Alabama in Tus
caloosa or Birmingham.
November I—Vanderbilt in At
lanta.
November B—South Carolina in
Augusta (Georgia-Carolina fair
week).
November 15—Auburn in At
lanta.
November 22—Sewanee In Ath
ens.
November 27—Tech in Atlanta
(Thanksgiving day).
REASONS.
I ech and Georgia would play
the same teams, thereby- giving an
opportunity accurately to measure
their respective points of supe
riority.
Each teain would play an equal
number of games before meeting
each other.
..They would be pitted against
the five best teams »in the South—
vanderbilt, Sewanee, Auburn,
Alabama and Clemson.
Atlanta fans would get to see
six stellar games, besides one of
lesser Importance.
Tech would have five of its ten
games in Atlanta.
Georgia would have three of its
ten in Atlanta and three in Ath
ens.
Atlanta fans would see six
teams, besides Tech and Georgia,
m action here, but no team would
appear here more than once, ex
cept Tech and Georgia.
Atlanta Is the best paying foot
■’a*l city in the South ami is er
titled to see the best games that
J ech and Georgia play.
There is no conflict of dates be
tween the Tech ami Georgia
schedules, and after the Tennes
see. Chattanooga and Mercer con
tests, there would be intervals of
two weeks or more (except with
the Carolina games) between the
dates Tech and Georgia would
meet any- one of the outside
teams.
Most Important of all—Tech and
Georgia would play In Atlanta on
thanksgiving day and bring their
5> e , ason to a ’’Umax with the ONE
big event of the Atlanta football
season.
XIZ'IILE all the shouting Is at its
height over the Vandy-Au
burn and the Georgia-Auburn
games, don’t let's forget that the
Tech-Cletnson game will be about
as interesting a struggle as the sea
son has furnished. It will be the
meeting of two light teams, but
teams that are uncanny fast. Be
yond any doubt, Tech and Clem
son are the shiftiest, trickiest
teams of the Eouthland. ’I" V v ' ;l ‘
play rare ball on Tlianl.sgAinf
(bl .