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DOZENS OF WITNESSES TELL OF LEO FRANK'S GOOD STANDING
Defense Paves Way for Placing the Accused Superintendent on the Stand
FORMER EMPLOYEE OF
FACTORY HELPSFRANK,,
TESTIFY ABOUT ALLEGED
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Yes; it was about 3 o’clock the first
Saturday. /
Q. How do you know?—A. I Just
bathed and dressed.
Q. What time was it then?—A.
About 2 o'clock.
Q. Did you see the office boy that
Saturday?—A. Yes.
Q. Who else?—A. Mr. Frank.
Q. What time did you leave?—A.
About 4 o'clock.
0 Do you recall the conversation
while you were there?—A. Na
Q. Did you go there often?—A. I
made a practice of s'oinc there every
Saturday and talking to them.
Q. Most of the time that particular
Saturday was Frank working?—A.
Yes.
Q. Did you talk to him while he wag
working?—A. Not much. -
Court then adjourned until 2
o’clock.
Sheriff Warns
Crowd To Be Quiet.
Just before court convened for the
afternoon session. Sheriff Mangum
warned the crowd that if he heard
any more laughter or hisses that he
would bring the offenders before
Judgp Roan and also clear the court
room of the balance of the crowd.
Solicitor Dorsey continued the
cross-examination of Roy Bauer.
Q. Who have you talked to since
yon left the stand?—A. Mr. Deo
Oottheimer, Mr. Sig Montag. Jim
Gorst, Mr. Arnold and Mr. Rosser.
Q. Where did you see them?—A.
In Mr. Arnold’s office.
Q. Why did you go to Mr. Arnold’s
office?—A. I drove Mr. Sig Mon tag
over in his car.
° Do you drive for him?—A. I
have been since his wife has been
away.
Q. What did they talk to you
about?—A. About my visits to the
National Pencil Factory on Satur
days.
Q What did you tell them?—A.
Nothing except what T told you.
o. Now tell me about the third
Saturday in January. What time did
you get to the National Pencil Fac
tory?—A. J don’t remember.
Q. How do you remember the first
Saturday?—A. I don’t know.
Diu you look at any samples
Q.
of pencils that third Saturday?—A,
No.
Q. What Saturday was it, then?—
A. The second.
Q. You coul not remember who was
up there the fourth Saturday, ex
cept Mr. Frank?—A. No one that I
remember.
Q. Who did you see there the
fourth Saturday?—A. I don’t know,
except the peoplo who were usually
there.
Q. Do you recall what time he left?
—A. No.
Q. Did you see Mr. Holloway?—A. I
don’t remember.
The witness was excused and Har
ry Gottheimer, who resides at the
Imperial Hotel, and who is a travel
ing salesman for Montag Brothers
and the National Pencil Company,
was called. Attorney Arnold ques
tioned him.
Q. Did you see Leo M. Frank Me
morial Day?—A. Yes. At Montag
Brothers about 10 o’clock.
Q. Did you have any conversation
with Mr. Frank?—A. Yes. He asked
me if I could come over that morn
ing and I told him no. Then he
asked me if I could not come over
that afternoon.
Q. Had you seen him before that
time in April?—A. Yes.
Q. When?—A. Two weeks before
that, I was at his office. His wife
was there writing on the typewriter.
Dorsey took the witness on cross-
examination.
Q. You say you work for Montag?
—A. I do.
Member of Society
To Which Frank Belonged.
Q. You are also a member of the
Bnai Brlth, Frank’s society, are you
not?—A. I am.
Q. What did Frank say when you
saw him at Montag’s?—A. He said
he would see me that morning,' or
that afternoon, if I preferred.
Q. He didn’t say anything about
having a baseball engagement with
his brother-in-law. did he?—A. No.
The witness was excused and Emma
Bibbs, a negro servant for Herbert
Schiff, was called. Arnold questioned
her.
Q. Do you recollect anyone calling
up Mr. Schlff on Memorial Day?—A.
Yes, sir. - It sounded like a boy’s
voice. I didn’t ask who it was.
Q. What time was it?—A. About 10
o’clock.
Q. Did you call Mr. Schiff?—A. Yes,
sir. He is hard to wake. He said he
would go, but he went back to sleep.
Q. What time was it they called
again?—A. About 11 o'clock. Mr.
Schiff said to tell them he vvouW come
as soon as he dressed.
Dorsey took the witness.
Q. Emma, how long has Mr. Schlff
been living there?—A. More than 40
years. I guess.
Q. Forty years?—A. I was talking
about the old man.
Q. Did you always wake him up on
holidays?—A. 1 don’t remember.
Sometimes 1 would wake him up. Hr
never would get up unless I waked
him.
Thanksgiving and
Memorial Day Same.
Q. How do you remember so well
about Memorial Day?—Everyone re
members Memorial Day.
Q. How about Thanksgiving Day?—
A. Memorial Day and Thanksgiving
Day are the same.
Q. Who was the first one you told
about this?—A. I don’t remember.
Q. Didn’t you talk it over with any
one?—A. With the lawyer, Mr. Her
bert Haas.
Q. When?—A. Since the trial began.
Q. Did he take you into the sitting
room before the family and they all
talked to you?—A. No, sir. Nobody
talked to me but him.
Q. What did he do? Take vou off to
himself and ask you about It?—A. No,
sir, he didn’t do nothing but give me
my “suspena.”
The witness was excused and An
nie Hicks, cook for Mrs. Frsenbach,
sister of Mrs. Frank, was called. Ar
nold o.uestioned her.
Q. Did you ket a telephone mes
sage last Memorial Day?—A. Yes.
Q. What time?—A. About 1:30.
Q. What was It?—A. Some one
called up and asked for Mr. Ursen-
bach. I, said he was not in and he
told me to tell him he could not go
to the ball game with him. He
slopped for a minute and then said:
“Hush up honey” to someone and
then said into the telephone. “All
right.” I reckon he was talking 10
his wife.
Q. Did you deliver the message?—
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know who it was talk
ing?—A. Yes, it was Mr. Frank.
Tells of Seeing
Frank on Sunday.
Dorsey took the witness on cross-
examination.
Q. Were you at the same place the
following Sunday afternoon?—A. No.
sir. I don't work anywhere Sunday
afternoons.
Q, Did you see Mr. Frank Sunday
morning?—A. Yes.
Q. Did you let him in?—A. No.
Q. Where were you, then?—A. In
the dining room.
Q. Was he nervous?—A. No.
Q. What were they doing?—A. Just
standing around, laughing.
Q. Did you know what you were
going to swear?—A. No. If I had I
planned to go to see my mother.
Q. Did you ever talk to Minola
Me Knight?—A. Yes
Q. What did she say?—A. She said
she was locked up.
Q. What did she say she did?—A.
Just prayed.
Attorney Rosser objected to this
question and answer and was sus
tained.
The witnew was excused and Tru
man McCrary, a negro drayman, was
called. Arnold questioned him. Mc
Crary said that up to May 1 he had
worked every Saturday at the Na
tional Pencil Factory.
Q. From July 1. 1912. to January
1. 1913, how many Saturday after
noons did you miss working there?
—A. I wouldn’t say more than one.
Q. How late did you work there?
—A. Usually until about 5 o’clock.
Q. On any Saturday, did you see
the front door locked?—A. No.
Q. Did you ever see Jim Conley
watching around the front door?—A.
No.
Q. Did you ever find Mr. Frank’s
outer office or inner office door lock
ed 0 —A A. No, sir.
Q. What sort of substance ar^ the
doors to his office made of?—A.
Glacis.
Doesn't Know Which
Saturday He Missed.
Q. Who did you find with Mr.
Frank?—A. Sometimes Mr. Schiff.
Q. Did you see Jim Conley around
the factory April 26, Memorial Day?
—A. I did not.
Q. You were them that day?—A.
Yes, sir I went there first about
7:30 o’clock and I went up to see
Mr. Frank a little before 12 o’clock.
Dorsey took tho witness on cross-
examination.
Q. What Saturday was it you
missed between July and January?—
A. I don’t remember.
Q. What time did you arrive at tho
factory on your flrMt trip?—A. About
7:30 o’clock.
Q. How do you know?—A. I Just
come from Mr. Schiff’s.
Q. What had ycu been doing there?
—A. Taking him his clothes.
Q. What time did you get your pay
Saturday?—A. I don’t remember, ex
actly. Some time before 12 o’clock
Q. You never saw that peglegged
drayman there that morning, did
you?—A. No.
Q You do remember putting your
hay down at the door?A. Yes. sir.
Q. You say you never saw Jim Con
ley there on Saturday afternoons?—
A. No.
Q. Were you ever there vourse'f
on Saturday afternoons?—A. Yes, sir.
Q. When you wont there for your
bills, would ou en up to the office
to get them or would thev bring them
down to you?—A. Some times I went
up to the office for them and some
times they brought them down.
The-witness was excused and Isaac
Haas, 479 Washington street, was
called. Arnold questioned him. Haas
testified to the general good char
acter of Frank.
Q. Mr. Haas, did your telephone
wake you up on Sunday, April 27?
A. No, it woke my wife and she woke
me.
The witness was excused and Ar
thur Pride, a negro, was called. Ar
nold questioned him. %
Q. Is your name Arthur, or Walk
er?—A. Both. Some calls me Walk
er and some the other.
Q. Where do you work?—A. Sec
ond floor of the r>*netl factory.
Q. Do you work on a machine?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you recall missing a Sat
urday since June of last year?—A.
No.
Q. Do you Just, work on the sec
ond floor?—A. No, I work from the
basement to the roof.
Q. On any of the Saturdays you
worked did you ever see any women
In the office of Mr. Frank?—A. No.
Q. Did you ever see Jim Conley
standing guard on the first floor?
A. No.
Q. Were you at the factory Me
morial Day? a. No.
y. What kind of work did Jim Cor
ley do?—A. Sweeper and elevator
man.
Q. Do the employees use the back
stairway that lends from the second
to the third and fourth floors?—A.
Yes.
Q. When the machinery is not run
ning. can you hear the elevator?
A. Verv plainly.
Q. Is there any difficulty in hearing
the elevator run on any floor?—A.
No.
y. Would you believe Jim Conley
under oath?—A. No.
Hooper took the witness or cross-
examination.
Q. When did you make up your mind
you would not believe Jim?—A.
About four months ago.
Q. Why?—A. He and his whole
family told a lie on me.
q. What was it?—A. He got me
Into trouble.
Q. You are a better negro than
Jim?—A. No, but 1 am a better grade
negro.
O Well what did he do?—A. He
brought me a watch that was marked
“paid in full’ and sold it to me. He
got arrested for It and his family
promised to pay for it if 1 -*ot him
out. I got it fixed and they would
not pay me.
q. Where was the elevator kev
kept?—A. I don’t know.
Q. Did you hear that elevator
when the wind was blowing th>
blinds?—A. Yes. But the wind
wasn’t blowing the blinds.
Arnold took the witness.
Q. You «ay Conley Gorged a re
ceipt and sold you the watch! A.
Yes.
Woman Says She
Saw Bloodspots.
The wltneBs was excused and Mrs.
El H. Carson, No. 61 Mclntire street,
was called. Arnold Questioned her.
Mrs. Carson said she worked at the,
pencil factory.
Q. Have you at any time seen
blood spots around the ladles' toilet?
—A. Yes; very often.
Q. Were you at the factory April
26?—A. Yes. ,
Q. What time did you leave?—A.
12:30.
Q When were you there again?—
A. Monday.
Q. When did you first see Jim
Conley after the crime?—A. Tues
day.
Q What time did you see him
gain?—A. Thursday.
Q. Did you say anything to him?—
A. I said; "Well, I see they haven’t
got you yet. He said: "I ain’t done
nothing." 1 told him that Mr. Prank
hadn’t done anything, but they had
him in Jail. That when they found
the negro that was on the first door
that day, that they Would have the
murderer of Mary Phagan. He put
down his broom and walked away.
Q. How long have you known Mr.
Frank?—A. For three years, the first
of last April.
Q Was his character good or bad?
—A. It was always good.
Q. How long have you known Jim
Conley?—A,. 1 don't know how long.
Q. What was his character for
truth and honesty?—A. Bad.
Q. Would you believe him under
oath?—A. No, I would not.
Dorsey took the witness on cross-
examination.
<J. Do you know Miss Daisy Hon-
klns? (Miss Hopkins was brought
Into the' courtroom)—A. No, 1 don’t
know her. There are lots of em I
don’t know.
Jury Goes Out for
Usual Soft Drink.
Q. What time was it Tuesday after
the murder that you talked to Con
ley?—A. It was something after 9
o’clock.
Q. Don’t you know’ you talked to
Frank and Conley both on the fourth
floor that day?—A. I think I did.
Q. Didn’t you see Frank whisper
to Conley?—A. No, I did not.
O What did Frank say?—A. He
said he was sorry about the little
girl being killed.
^ um you hear anyone else say
they were sorry about the girl being
murdered? 1 —A. Well, to tell you th$
truth, I was so stirred up and Upset
I don’t remember Just what was said.
I have been upset ever since, aiKl I
am not rignt now. I was awful sorr/
about the little girl.
At this point Mr. Dorsey asked for
the records of the National Pencil
Company. The defense aid riot have
them.
Dorsey: ”1 served a duces tecum
on you. I need those records.”
Rosser: “We have called on you
for papers several times when you
did not have them. You Just quarrel
like an old she-cat.**
Arnold: “Let’s quit this quarrel
ing. Hugh. eLt’s all quit it. It is
disgusting.”
The Jurors were excused for a few
minutes to taek their usual afternoon
soft drink.
Q. Did you see those blood spots or
the .second floor near the ladies’
dressing room?—A. Yes.
Q. And you say you have seen
such blood spots before?—A. Yes.
Where, In the basement?—A. No,
I have never been In the basement.
I saw It around the sink, in the toilet
on the second floor and on the steps.
Says Conley Declared
Frank Was Innocent.
Q. Did you know who had been
hurt?—A. No.
Q. DlfT you see anyone around
there?—A There were lots of girls
around there.
Q. With their fingers cut?—A. Oh,
no.
Q. Did you see Frank Monday?
A. No.
Q. You did not see him until Tues-
dav?—A. No.
Q When did you see Jim Conley
again'—A I saw him Thursday. I
said “Jim, J see they pe.-en’t ret
yet ” He said. “No, Missis, I ain’t
done nothing.’’ And he looked nee
he was scared. I said. "No. Mr.
Frank hasn’t done anvthlng either,
but they got him." He said, "N>,
.Missis he Is as innocent as you. and
I know voil is." I answered. "When
thc-v And " h
tie Mary Phagan it will be the ne-
gro Mrs. Wniu-
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Many Bargains in Our August Clearance Sale Saturday
All Summer Hats Must Go [pip**STORE OREM UNTIL 10 O’CLOCK SATURDAY NIGHT^'^PUl Ladies’ Muslin Underwear
A clean-up of all the Summer Hats. Pret
ty ratine Hats, white Chips, black Chips
°nd ready-to-wear dress Hats; values up
t 33.00. Choice
69
Embroidery and Voile Dresses
200 pretty and dainty white all-over
embroidery and pretty voile Dresses:
not one worth less than $5.00. Clear
ance Price
$| .98
Clearance Sale of Baby Caps
25 c
1,000 Baby Caps, daintily trimmed with
embroidery and lace. Bought from one
of the largest millinery Jobbers In the
South at a sacrifice; worth up to $i _ach.
Clearance Price
Sample Silk Waist Sale
100 sample Silk Shirtwaists and Shirts;
made to sell for $3 and $4 and up to $6.
Some slightly soiled. Clearance
98
Children’s School Dresses
Just the thing for the school children, 400
sample Dresses, made of line galatea and
good quality madras; $1.50 values; all
sizes. Special
69
Ladies’ and Misses’ Skirts
$^.98
Ladies’ and Misses’ all-wool Serga
Skirts, in navy, tan. black, gray and
all-wool mixtures; $5 and $6 values.
Clearance Price
BEAUTIFUL
axa third
OH! YOU READY CASH:
Here is what it did—Our Mr. L. B. Joel, in New York last week,
bought for SPOT CASH over 500 beautiful Dresses in All-over
Nets, Handsome Embroidered White
Voiles, Beautiful Silk Tissues, Messaline Silks,
Z*j|| Silk Ratine Dresses, Etc. Dresses worth up to
$12.50; choice
3
Other Ready-to-Wear Bargains
Ladies’ White Corduroy Skirts made to sell
for $1.50 to $2. In this ©‘7#%
sale QIC
Ladies’ Handsome Shirt Waists, all beauti
fully trimmed and worth up to
$2.50. Choice O I C
Ladies’ Lisle Finish Vests, the 19c
kind. Saturday
5c
88c
Ladies’ long figured Crepe Kimonos in beau
tiful patterns; all colors. Worth
$2.00. Choice
Ladies’ 54-inch Rainproof Rubber Coats, made
to sell for $5.00. This 4 QjQ
sale $ 1 .^10
Ladies’ good quality House Dresses, worth
$1.50. In this COrt
sale OU
Ladies’ Long Lawn Kimonos, well made of
good material and worth $1.50. A At*
Ladies’ Black Mercerized Petticoats with
deep embroidered flounce, worth OQ»
$1.00. Special OwC
Ladies’ Lawn Dressing Sacks, made to sell for
$1.00. On sale Saturday.
Special WWW
Ladies’ Muslin Underwear
3,000 Sample Garments Ladies’ Mus
lin Underwear bought at one-third their
value will go on sale Saturday at the fol
lowing reduced prices: ,,
Good quality Muslin Drawers, neatly 1 Q/%
trifnmed and worth 50c .....il wC
Ladies’ Drawers trimmed with dainty embroid
ery and worth up OC*
to 75c CwC
Fine quality Muslin Corset Covers, trimmed with
embroidery and worth up 4
to 50c I wC
Well-made, good quality Muslin Corset Covers,
embroidery trimmed and a good j)l%f*
75c value bVW
Ladies' Gowns, trimmed with embroidery and
worth up QQft
Neat Embroidery-trimmed Muslin Gowns, worth
47c
Ladies’ embroidery-trimmed Petticoats, made of
good quality Muslin; worth
$1.00 wvw
Muslin Petticoats trimmed with wide embroid
ery and made to sell PO -
for $1.50 DSJ'*
Very fine Muslin Petticoats trimmed with wide
embroidery and not a one worth less QDf*-
than $2.50; in this sale
$1.00; in this
sale
Main Floor Clearance Sale Bargains For Saturday
500 Bolts Numbers 60 and 80 a 11-Silk
Taffeta Ribbons, 4 and 5 inches wide,
in all colors, f _
yard DC
1,500 yards All-Over Embroideries and
27 and 36-inch Embroidery Flouncing,
worth $1 yard,
150 Bolts Oriental Lace Bands, made
to sell for 25c yard, in this g-_
sale, yard DC
1,000 yards linen Torchon Laces, 4 to 6
inches wide and worth Rg*
up to 25c; yard DC
500 Bolts Best Antiseptic Cotton Dia
per, 34 inches wide and KQf*
worth $1 bolt vvv
200 bolts fine English Longcloth, ex
tra fine soft finish, worth
$1.25; bolt 03C
120 dozen good quality, extra heavy
Huck Towels in this sale Rt*
only, each DC
28 bolts good quality Brown Dress
Linen, yard-wide and worth A.
a quarter; yard DC
200 dozen full double bed size Bleached
Sheets, hemmed ready for *5©
use, only L. Q
80 dozen Double Face Bleached Dam
ask Napkins, hemmed ready
for use; dozen
Bulgarian Crepes, Silk Poplins, Silk
Striped Voiles, White Ratines and 45-
inch White and Cream 4
Voiles; yard 1 53C
Closing out all Colored Lawns, Organ
dies, Voiles and Colored Flaxons.
Regular 25c goods; Kf*
yard VW
25 Pieces Double Width All Silk Malines,
in black, white and colors, worth 39c yard .
8c
BASS DRY GOOD
300 Bolts genuine yard-wide Fruit of
and Lonsdale Bleaching,
yard
the Loom
72c