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TIIP: ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS.
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COACH HEI5MAN RANKS
SECOND
And the Paper Is Still Waiting for Jeff’s Story
By 'Bud’ Fisher
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Tech, Vanderbilt and L, S. V. Arej
Tied for Third Place In
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write a review of the foot ha.I
ft«a>ot< In the Southern Inter
collegiate* Athletic. Association, but t-
attempt a ranking of all the lean ,<
therein la a lank from whioh tn >
Ptouteat haart (or nerviest dopester’
rnay w*ll quail.
No one denies that Auburn le en
titled to the championship. but that
is about the only weli-eatabUfhed
place In the ranking Enough ha a
been said and written about the
Plainsmen and their play to render
any extended review of their season
superfluous. They had splendid ma
terial and lots pf It; and the coaches
knew how to utilize It. Not ever>
college or at r of coaches knows how
to handle good and plentiful material,
even if they have it, and Auburn r
greatest achlevemen. lay in making
fho most of her opportunities.
The strength of the Auburn team
rraa revealed by the fact that tin >
fiirt not need a greatly dlvertdflrd
style of pla> in order to win th ir
f emes Their play was aimoet en
[rely atraight football, without even
forward passing figuring to an> ex
tent in their work This serves to
show how powerful their men were
and how well they were drilled in
the rudiments It was a very fine
team, and Auburn may well be proud
of it.
* * •
"M" OW comes the big job in trying
to determine the order «>f prior
ity between Georgia, Vanderbilt,
Louisiana and Tech
That Georgia deserves to rang
Shoad of Tech is at once conceded,
but it 1h not so clear that she de
serves t<* be rated ahead of the other
two. And. on the other hand., it is
not clear that these other two merit
n higher rating than does Tech. And
here s the cause of all our trouble:
After a very careful and thorough
consideration of the facts In the ray
1 belts** It right to rank Georg;.*
ahead of at? the oth*» three, with .a
clean ho'd on second place Van
derbilt iv*d register a big "hol'er .t
this point on the ground that the - '
held Auburn closer than did Georgia.
tf.-» they did but they failed to do
anything against Virginia that was
at all comparabb to what the Oeor
spans accomplished against the same
team.
Vanderbilt will point to her Mg
•core against Sewanee, but, with all
due respect to Sewnnee, her team \\; -
not up to standard Ills year, and I
do not rate that victory as any great
er than Georgia's against North Car
olina. And after you have consid
ered these two games of the Commo
dores. what have they left worth
dwelling on in their reason's record?
Nothing And wliat has Georgia left
outside of her good victory over Ala
bama—a team that beat Tennessee
worse than Vanderbilt could beat
them—and a clear victory over the
strong Tech team. And these ire
the reasons I place Georgia ahead
of the Commodore*
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\T OW for Louisiana They had a
^ strong team, and they have a
satisfactory season's work to thc-ir
credit. But five of the games on
their schedule were very easy, ant
yet they were scored on In two of
those. Three of their other games
were with 3. !. A \ teams Mis
sissippi A. A V Auburn and T«xhs
A A M. These were the only strong
teams Louisiana played. One of them
she lost and the other two she tied:
so that she can i.iake no very loud
\ claim on what eh* accomplished in
REAL games And that is why 1
place Louisiana second to Georg:*
On just what basis should teams be
ranked anyway? There could he a
lot of hefty argument on that point
’.reelf Tt> something like in college
baseball-- no two teams play the
name opponents, nor the same num
ber of games nor under identical
conditions. Therefore at b'-st the
whole thing is a gue^s.
Tev but a guess as to what" as to
whi h. of two teams has made the
better record throughout the season,
or which is the stronger at the close
of the season, or which of the two
would win If they encountered each
other in a game, and if so. on what
date are you supposing such a c.ime
to take, or to have taken, place?
\nd there you are
So much depends upon the angle
from which you are viewing the
question It * e.*i*\ to understand
that for good and sufficient reasons
one teani might be much further
along in its development early in
October than another and would
probably win the game were those
two teams to come together at that
time On the other hand, the first
team might have retrograded, rela
tively, by the latter part of Novem
ber while the other had gone on to
fulfill her destiny, the exigencies of
her schedule and the local peculi
arities of her situation in such a
wa> as to he exceptionally strong
right near the close of the season
whereas :t showed practically no
strength during the first half and
could not therefore be expected to be
able to make much of a record. Un
der these circumstances should the
omparative records be relied upon
to show which was the better team?
<‘»r should we just look at the two
'■'sin* in action at the same or at
different times during the season and
express an expert opinion as to
w'hirh would win if they were to
■ »mc together? And if the latter is
the test, let us not forget that v> e
Mill have to bear in mind what the
PLAN of development of each team
" a .n order to be fair to both and
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Hou) I ldsmari Ranks 7 earns
1. Auburn.
9. Clemson and Tennes-
2. (ieorgiii.
see.
3. Tech, Vanderbilt and
11. Florida and Missis-
Louisiana.
sippi College.
13. Tulane.
(j. Sewanee and .Miss. A.
14. Citadel.
and M.
15. Mercer.
8. Alabama.
16. Charleston.
ing the season n« would do justice
to the top notch playing strength of
both- which would be a thing im
possible to do.
Bo you see w e have here a very
complicated proposition to handle
I WILL frankly say that I try to
tak* ALL these points into con
sider men in attempting • ranking
It will not give general satisfaction
for anyone to rank all the teams
according to his opinion as to their
relative strength on the last playing
clay of the season, although such a
plan would have much argument in
its favor. The SEASON record of a
team MUST largely be taken into
account even though it may have
planned more definitely for n par
ticular rival or two at a particular
time of the season, rather than on its
w hole season's record
And after that one must still leave
room for the injection of a little per
sona! opinion into the equation as tft
which team would win were they to
come together
Vanderbilt played neither Tech nor
Louisiana, nor did either of the oth-
*r > play cither of the remaining two
How is one to decide which would
win in the case of an encounter be-
tween an> V There is no sure way to
decide If (here were, no such thing
as betting on the outcome of games
would take place: the fact that people
bet and bet proves that they are of
different minds. But it is put upon
my shoulders to hazard an opinion
and a duty that T must face. Others
may disagree with me—and plenty
of them will. We shall not go to war
on that account.
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TSJOV . a:- between Louisiana, Yan-
^ derbilt and Tech 1 can not see
but what Tech is FULLY deserving
of a ranking on a par with the other
two Let us look again at what all
three teams did.
Vanderbilt beat Sowanee badly; but,
on the whole, hardly any worse— in a
football sense—than did Tech when
It is re ailed that the Tigers scored
twice on Vanderbilt. whereas she
couldn’t score at all on Tech. So this
comparison nets neither team any-
i thing
j Vanderbilt held Auburn closer than
I Tech. But in mid-season the Com-
; uodovc.v < . ,!* • 1 defeat Tennessee but
j' lie point wLi Tech's mid-season
\i ’uiy over Sewanec was achieved
after the latte had already decislve-
I lv defeated Tennessee. Of course.
I Vanderbilt comes back and says.
' Yes,*but w© are not comparing mid-
season form, but form at the close of
the season.” Very well, could any
team show more brilliant, playing form
on Thanksgiving Day than Tech? To
beat this strong team two touch
downs better than even Auburn could
score against them should certainly
be a classy enough performance to
suit anybody.
And if one inquires into Tech’s
early season form they find the Yel
low Jackets going at a clip that none
can surpass, for thev defeated both
Citadel and Chattanooga early in the
season by scores that were not even
approached by any other teams at
any time during the entire season.
Now, while Vanderbilt did nothing
especially worthy of mention in the
early part of the season, and still
nothing in mid-season, but did come
to a tine height at Its close. Louisiana
came to her height at mid-season,
against Auburn. The first part of
her season shows nothing to wonder
over, nor does the last. She made a
good showing in one game in mid
season at the top of her form, and that
lets her out.
But Tech did things early 1n the
season, and in the middle of the sea
son, and at the end of tite season.
Yes, she lost to both \uburn ajvd
Georgia, but just at a time when she
had in the field her weakest line-ups
of the year, due to absolutely nothing
but bad luck By this it is not meant
that she would have won from these
with a different line-up. but she
would, no doubt, have held both Au
burn and Georgia closer had she
been able to encounter either team
earlier or later.
These I consider good and sufficient
reasons for saying plainly that at the
very lea^*t Tech is tied with both
Louisiana and Vanderbilt for third
place.
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AS Sewanee won from A abama and
** Tennessee she must be handed
sixth place; for Alabama defeated
Clemson, the only other possible con
tender outside of Mississippi A. and
M.
Inasmuch as Mississippi A. A M.
also defeated Alabama, it may be ar
gued that they hav« as much right to
be put sixth as Sewanee; and I dare
say they have. Sewanee won over
Alabama by a three points' margin,
while A. A M won by a veve:i-po'it
margin In addition, A. M. p1a> u
tar strong Louisiana team a : ie
game On the other hand, Sewanee
did about equally well to hold Texas
to a dose score. Altogether, it is
a stand-off. and a tie for sixth place
Ritchie Starts Work
For Championship Go
With Tommy Murphy
SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 1.—With a
crowd of something more than 200 fans
on hand to watch him, Willie Ritchie
went through his first Sunday's grind
prior to his approaching mill with Har
lem Tommy Murphy, with the light
weight championship at stake His per
formance, so fur as the crowd was con
cerned. consisted chiefly of six rounds
of boxing with three sparring part
ners. and. although gym work Is not
the truest tost of a man's ring ability,
the San Franciscan displayed quite
enough to warrant ihe assertion that he
is improving
Harlem l*omm\ Murphy started work
at Shannon's place, ami the gym was
packed with the followers tp* gqm*
Murphv did b^ boxing with Frankie ikl
wards and Eddie Miller, three rounds
apiece.
4 Harvard Stars on All-Eastern
rtr v*v t*v vs*r v • v • v
Carlisle Players Also Honored
is as fine as I can venture to draw
the line
ALABAMA and Clemson perhaps
* * won and lost about the same
number of games during the season,
but inasmuch as Alabama won over
the Palmettos b\ a decisive margin
of 20 points the laurel wreath must
be handed the former, for where a
direct game does take place between
two teams the results of th.r
contest must be accepted for thur
face value regardless of what com
parative scores in other encounters
may show.
In ninth place T must rank Tennes
see as tied with Glemsoii. Both won
from Davidson by low scores, and
both have to their credit one corking
good game against a. strong team —
Tennessee against Vanderbilt and
Olemson against Georgia Tennessee,
ns well as ''lomson. were snowed un
der by Alabama, while both had their j
victories against 'r*ser teams,
• * *
C'T-ORIDV and Pitade! lost to a' no
A big teams bur pLaved pretty fa ■
ball, all things considered, throughout
the season. The former won from
the latter and so must be rated high
er. Both o? them deserve better
ranking than Mercer, although the
game between Citadel and Merc-, r
was a tie,
Tulane belongs dow*n there some
where. hut at exactly which notch it
would be hard to say—probably bc-j
tween Citadel and Florida
Mississippi College came Into
prominence throughout the first half
of the season with some nice games
and creditable victories. Her work
for the season entitled her to a place
alongside of Florida.
Texas A. «Sr M. has been left out
of the ranking, as she is so far away
it Is impossible to keep good track of
her over in this neck of the woods.
They had a good team all right, as is
shown by their playing Louisiana to
a standstill.
Consideration of the Kentucky
colleges is omitted for the same rea
son
Chattanooga is not in the associa
tion. but she made n fine fight of »t
against every team except Tech. Her
season s re- ord vyuld be on a plane
with that of FloriiO.
Bv Frank G. Menke.
x tEW YORK, Dec. 1.—And now w’e
I \ approach the most difficult task
of our giddy young life—the
selection to-day of an All-Eastern
eleven, an All-Western team to-mor-
iow and All-American aggregation
on Wednesday as our final football
job of the v ear.
Never before has the picking been
harder- In other years there was
< nly a sprinkling of real football stars
m the Last and West. This season
practically every team in the coun
try has brought to light one or more
luminaries, who ’by all the laws of
fairness ought to be given positions
on the all-star outfits
Merrillat t&kea rank a« one of the
greatest ends that ever played the
game He ’s a hard, sure tackier,
gets down under punts with amaz
ing speed and seldom during the past
season did be fail to spill a pla> that
started around his wing. On the of
fense he is even a mightier power.
As a broken runner he has few peers,
and he handles the forward pass with
perfection.
Hogsett was one of the big factors
in the great showing made during the
.is' a ly I Lirini'l | .
Harvard Tackles Picked.
Btorer and Hitchcock, the Harvard
tackles, loom up as the best men that
played at their positions in the East.
Time and again during the past sea
son the rival elevens directed their
rnta'-k against these men. and almost
as often were they thrown back
many times with a loss. Both men
demonstrated th«»ir value on offensive
plays in every game during the sea
son.
Brown, the big Navy guard, and
Weyand, of the Army, had no equals
on the Eastern gridiron this year.
Brown was a stonewall on the de
fense and a great offensive player as
well.
Brown, in the opinion of the crit
ics. is one of the best placement kick
er? that ever donned the moleskin.
Weyand all season has shown almost
uncanny ability in breaking through
h:s opponents’ line and either blocking
bunts or dumping a play almost as
soon as it started.
Gii: low, of Carlisle was the strong
est part of the Carlisle line on de
fensive pla>, and for a heavy man
got down the field faster under punts
than any center that played in the
East.
Ghee at Quarter.
Making the selection of the All-
Eastern quarter was the hardest task
of all. Ghee, of Dartmouth; Ix>gan.
of Harvard: Huntington, of Colgate:
i’ri hard, of the Army, and Welch, of
Carlisle, all are wonderful players—
each sceminglv entitled to the honor
of bring vailed the best. But an al-
most microscopic examination of their
records made it seem to us that Ghee
is worthy of first choice.
Tuere vsas no hesitancy about the
fullback Job. Brickley stood head and
shoulders over any man that played
in the center of the backfteld. Mahan
has made a wonderful record this
year, and possesses marvelous abil
ity as an open field runner. Guyon,
the Indian, a terrific Ijne smasher, a
great open field runner, a drop kick
er. a punter, and a wonderful tackier,
completed the backfleld quartet.
First Eleven.
Merrillat (Army)
Storer (Harvard)
Brown (Annapolis) .
Garlo-w (Carlisle)
Weyand (Army) .
Hitchcock (Harvard)
Hogsett (Dartmouth)
Ghee (Dartmouth) . .
Guyon (Carlisle) .
Mahan (Harvard)
Brickley (Harvard) . .
Second Eleven.
Hardwick (Harvard)
Talbott (l'ale)
Ketcham «Yale)
Marting (Yale)
Gaunns (Cornell) ...
Ballin <Pnneeton>
Wagner (U. of Pennsy
Prichard (Army)
Whitney (Dartmouth)
Spiegel (W. A J.)
Calac (Carlisle)
Position.
End
Tackle
Guard
Center
Guard
.Tackle
End
.... Quarter
• Left Halfback
right Halfback
Fullback
Position.
End
Tackle.
Guard
Center
Guard
Tackle
ivama) . . .End
Quarter
. Left Halfback
Right Halfback
Fullback
1 INFIELD
Bridwell Is Slipping and Chicago
Fans Believe Johnny Can Win
Flag With Shortstop.
C hicago, tll., Dec 1.—Like a
duck Lakes to water, the Chi
cago fans are taking to the
announcement that there 1? a slight
possibility that Joe Tinker will return
and play shortstop for Johnny Evers
and his ball club ‘Give Ever? Tinker
at short and he’ll win the flag in the
National League next, year,” is the
talk that one hears around sporting
circles these days.
And, after all. there is a chance
that Tinker may. return to the 1 ab»
Tinker is willing; Evers is willing-
in fact, anxious—and there is n(
doubt that President MurphJ
would be pleased to have the pepperj
Joe back within the Cub fold. Bu)
there is one other who must be will*
ing for a trade—Garry Herrmann thi
president-manager-czar of the Cincin>
nati club.
But Herrmann is sadly In need oi
a first-class catcher and It may
that he will rast his eyes Cub wart
when looking for a working partner U
Clarke. You know Johnny Kllnj
is out with his annual retirement no<
tices, so Garry will have to lool
around and find a first-class receive
to assist, Clarke.
He can look all around the Nations
League circuit and still not do ns wel
as he can right here In Chicago. Th>
catcher we now refer to is. of course
Roger Breenahan. Ever since thi
closing of the 1913 season the wlutel
league scribes have been trading Rog'
er First we had him going to Brook
lyn. and as a manager, but whet
Wilbert Robinson affixed his Joht
Hancock to a Superba contract tha
let Bresnahan out.
DES JARDIENS L EADS CHICAGO.
CHICAGO, Dec 1.—Paul Des Jardiens
center rush on the University of Chicag«
championship football team, has beej
elected captaJn of the 1915 eleven
1
Ban on Willard May
Be Lifted To-morrow
NEW YORK, De<v 1.—it was an
nounced to-<l«y that the suspension of
.less Willard by the State Athletic: Com
mission, which has been in forep against
the T^xas heavyweight since last March,
will be raised to-morrow by the commis
sion. and Willard will be able to fill
his engagement with Carl Morris at the
Garden Athletic Club Wednesday night..
Hoping for some 6ueh favorable verdict,
both boxers have been in active training
for more than a week, so the late action
in no way will affect the condition of
the men when they step into the ring
AFTER POLICEMAN’S JOB
John Anderson, once a noted major
league first baseman and outfielder, has
given up the real estate business at
v.'orcester, Mass., and is seeking an ap
pointment as policeman.
TINKER MAY SELL RANCH.
PORTLAND. OREG.. Dec. 1.—Owner
McCredle, of the Portland Coast League
! baseball club, is going Into ranching a?
a side issue. He has already secured
an option on some property owned by
Joe Tinker near this city
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American League baseball team, has !
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th's city, and will make Pittsfield his I
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