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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS.
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Art Hass Itts Demands, but Love is tlie Lure That 'Pickles the Box Office Man
COVERED b KPE
Owner of Reds Plans to Dispose
of Former Manager at League
Meeting To-morrow.
By .James Clarkson.
C hicago, ill., Dec. 8.—it now
begins to look as though the
National League meeting to be
held In New York to-morrow will be
a pretty lively affair after all. Prac
tically every club in the circuit will
go after the services of Tinker, who
will be placed on the market by Garry
Herrmann.
The Pittsburg Pirates want Joe
badly. Tinker admitted yesterday
that Clarke was going to land him, al
though he did not intimate what the
conditions of the trade may be. How
ever. .Joe says there is nothing of a
sure thing” nature connected with
:he possibility of him going to the
Pirates. He would be willing to play
for Clarke, although he seems to pre
fer returning to his first love—the
Cubs.
Tinker to Bring High Price.
The meeting to-morrow night may
bring on more trades than we are ex
pecting. Practically every manager in
•he National League, with the excep
tion of McGraw, will be in attendance.
There will also be several American
League magnates there.
• kirk Griffith, who comes out in an
interview and says he will not run
lower than second next season, will
a bid for Outfielder Bates, of
the Cincinnati Reds. Griff says he
hasn't an idea that he will succeed in
making the deal, but nevertheless he’s
going to tackle Herrmann.
lust who Clarke, of the Pirates, will
offer for Tinker is not known. It is
reasonable to believe that Herrmann
will ask a whole lot when he says to
the National League moguls: “Gen
tlemen. make your offers.” Tinker cost
Herrmann in the neighborhood of
f2f),000 in money and players. Five
players came to the Cubs via the Reds
when Tinker was assigned to the
management of the Herrmann tribe.
Fo you can gamble that Herrmann
will hold Tinker at a high price. How
ever. .Joe is worth a high price, and
the Reds will no doubt be able to
get considerable talent in exchange for
him.
Evers Leaves for East.
Johnny Evers stated when he left
here for Troy last Thursday that he
didn't think he would attend the meet
ing But you can bet that Peppery
will be among those present at
the confab. And it would not be sur
prising to learn that John was armed
ith a lot of papers from Charles W.
Murphy authorizing him to go the
limit to secure the services of Tinker.
The American League, despite the
fact that it is willing to go the limit
with the kale, has no chance of get-
• ng Tinker. The National League
magnates have all stated that Tinker
is too good a ball plaver to let get out
of the league. That means that he
will shortstop for one of the National
League clubs next season.
Packey Rules 2 to 1
Choice Over Britton
In To-night’s Bout
CHICAGO, Dec. 8.—Packey McFar
land, the popular South Side boxer, and
Jack Britton, the pride of the North
Side, both Chicago fighters of Irish par
entage, will meet to-night in a ten-
round bout before Tom Andrews’
Queensberry Athletic Club, of Milwau
kee.
in contrast to most fights which have
been held in the Badger State since the
boxing bill became a law, to-night’s bat
Mf should be one worth going miles to
The principals have trained hard
end faithfully and are in condition to
step ten rounds at a lively clip.
Mc Farland is in better shape than he
has been for any tight in the last six
months. He has done considerable road
work and has not missed a day in the
gym
Realizing he must meet one of the
best men of his weight in the world.
Britton is In the best of shape. Three
Weeks of conscientious training has put
Jack in tip-top condition.
Welsh Would Take
Joe Rivers' Place'
In Go With Dundee
NEW ORLEANS, Dec. 8.—Promoter
Tortorich will have no trouble finding a
suitable opponent for Johnny Dundee
' nristmas Day, according to a message
received yesterday from Freddie Welsh,
-nglish lightweight, who telegraphs
t.nat he is anxious to meet the Italian
■jghtweight here in a ten-round bout in
? .e event Joe Rivers is unable to keep
the
engagement.
The Dundee-Rivers bout, according to
Tortorich. has not been declared
yet. Rivers was signed to a set
( ’i articles with the understanding he
w °nld release in the event he could not
; match with Willie Ritchie on the
:?/' Christmas Day.
1 rtorich says he has not heard from
Cevy, Rivers’ manager, requesting
« r*Toase from the contract he entered
;• ! '**re recentlj', but expects to know
^finitely within the next day or two.
Athletic Club Five
Plays Chattanooga
Quintet Saturday
w„ p Chattanooga Tigers, champion
r ‘ thall players of East Tennessee,
: Jay the Atlanta Athletic Club in
&ighr eCOn< * game °* the s e *son Saturday
t-V Tigers defeated every team in
tvt ‘ennessee last year, and went
^ ^ugh the entire season without a de-
, ’ They have been at work for quite
• this season and are now in ex-
w a«nt condition.
What s a Million, Anyway?
By James Swinnerton
POLLY AND HER PALS
There’s Sometning the Matter With Ashur
Famous Yellow Jacket Coach Looks for Very Few Changes
HEISMAN TALKS ABOUT 1914 FOOTBALL RULES
Wells and Carpentier
Will Clash To-night
NEW YORK. Dec. 8—Bombardier
Wells, English heavyweight champion,
and Georges Carpentier, the French
titleholder, are scheduled to meet in
u twenty-round go to-night at the Na
tional Sporting Club, London. Al
though both have been knocked out.
Wells by A1 Palzer and Gunboat Smith,
and Carpentier by Frank Klaus and Bill
Papke, there is much rivalry between
them. Wells claims he was ill when
Carpentier stopped him nearly n year
ago in four rounds. They will fight for
ari $18,000 purse.
GEORGIA APPLES WIN PRIZES.
ELLIJAY, Dec. 8.—John W. Clayton,
a fruit grower of Gilmer County, has
just received a telegram that he won
first prizes on four varieties of apples
exhibited at the National Apple Show
in New York.
By J. \V. Heisman.
B ASEBALL has become so well
crystallized that we hardly ex
pect any changes in the playing
rules from year to year. But foot
ball is a, game which in its nature is
bound to go through* a deal more of
experimenting before we can say
positively that tha very best and
most satisfactory rules have at last
been evolved.
It must be admitted that the ele
ment of danger has not been entirely
eliminated from the game, nor, for
that matter, do I ever expect to see it
so. Football is undoubtedly a rough
game, and it always will be, else it
will ndt be football.
But it can no longer be said to be
anything like as dangerous a pastime
as it was some seven or eight years
ago. A number of unfortunate casu
alties do still occur each season, but
they do not number one-quarter what
thev formerly ran to. And we also
observe that the very serkms acci
dents do not occur on high-grade col
lege teams or elevens that have been
handled by skilled coaches and train
ers. It is tile young boys who go pell-
mell into the thing without competent
supervision and coaching, or who play
against teams very greatly their su
periors in weight and strength, that
get badly hurt or worse.
But the American people have come
to realize that many more persons
lose their lives each year in hunting,
in skating, in swimming, in boating
and other sports than succumb in
football, and the mad outcry against
the game has entirely hushed. We
can not hope to make the game much
safer, so it is probable we shall see
no changes in the rules having for
their object the mere elimination
of alleged danger.
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\\J HEN the requirement to gain 10
v v yards in four downs first came
into existence, it seemed doubtful
whether that was not asking too much
of the offense; and, indeed, for the
first year of experience under the rule,
it did look that way. for there were a
heap of games played in which abso
lutely no scoring was done, and a lot
of tie games were the result.
But as the game opened up. and the
possibilities that lay in open work
unfolded themselves, it became ap
parent in the course of another year
that teams could force the ball across,
and as the players also became more
expert in the manipulation of the for
ward pass, they forgot to kick about
the 10 yards.
In the South and the West, where
offense long ago took on a mere open
and venturesome style, there has been
no inability to ' score touchdowns,
lienee in these sections it is difficult
for players and coaches to understand
why the Eastern colleges should see
any need for reducing the distance to
be gained in four trials.
In all fairness, though, it must be
admitted that the results of the big
games in the East seem to indicate
that they have here a real problem
to worry over. It will be recalled that
in their games with each other, neither
Harvard, Yale nor Princeton scored
a single touchdown; all the points
that were scored in the three games
came either bv way of field goals or
a safety. And that has been the story
for other years than this between
these Eastern teams.
It may also bo recalled that the
Navy has beaten the Army for the
three years preceding this one by field
goals only. This year, however, the
Army not only won the game, but did
it by touchdowns, not by field goals.
And how came it that the Army did
at last succeed in scoring touch
downs, whereas the Navy and the
other three crack Easlern teams could
only execute field goals? We'll an
swer that ouestion In just, a minute.
Coming back to the contention of
Yale, Harvard, et al.. It is claimed
that when a team gets the ball down
within an opponent’s 20-yard line and
that opponent brings up into action its
secondary defense, the distance of 10
yards is too great to be ~ ! ned with
consistency in four trb’ and there
fore it ought to be shortened. Will it
be? I don’t think so.
These three may vote that way. but
they will be outvoted by the repre
sentatives of the smaller colleges, who
outnumber them.
Why not make it five trials at this
stage of the game? someone asks.
Well, that could be done, but It Im
poses too severe a mental and physi
cal strain on the defensive team to be
thrown on the defensive for so long a
time without any chance of relief.
How comes it that Yale and the
other two can’t score when, seeming-
ingly, no other teams seem to expe
rience this great difficulty? Two
points explain the situation. In the
first place, these teams are simply
crazy on the subject of defense—and
they always have been. While I
cheerfully grant that the AV estem
ttpams, as a rule, know more about
offense than do the Easterners, 1 must
say that they are still far behind the
Orientals in the matter of repelling
attack. This beipg the case, the
Eastern teams are better able to stop
all mariner of things than are those
in the South and West, hence fewer
touchdowns.
On the other hand, they have been
too conservative in handling their of
fense, with the result that they have
not yet even found out the possibili
ties of the open game; hence they
think they need a change in the rules.
But the open work of the Army team
against Navy (in large part taught
the former by Notre Dame) shows
clearly that even the Navy or Eastern
defense does not avail against a mod
ern system of attack. So what the
Eastern teams need is not a change
in the rules, but a change In their of
fensive playing systems. This fact
will, I think, be borne in on them be
fore the committee meets, and the
Eastern representatives will find
themselves too weak, numerically, to
bring about any change in the dis
tance to be gained or the number of
downs in which to gain it.
* * *
A ND now field goals have become
more common than three-baggers.
When one man can tally five of these
in one game the thing is getting to a
stage where it cuts- altogether too
much of a figure.
While a very pretty play, it must
yet be said that a field goal is not
strictly of the real essence of our
American game of football, as is a
touchdown. And even the non-play
ing public have come to see and be
lieve this way about it, for did they
not hiss each time the Harvard team
lined up for a try at another one aft
er the first two, $uicl call for a touch
down instead?
Well, what are you going to do
about it? I don't know. I doubt if
the committee will do anything about
it this year. But before long we’ll
find the value of the field goal going
down still another point.
But when it does they will also
have to reduce the value of the goal
following touchdowns, for if the field
goal is worth only two, certain it is
that the goal following touchdown is
not worth half as much. So it might
very well be that we shall see changes
in both these respects even this win
ter.
I look for some of the old dead let
ter rules to be completely excised
from the book, and possibly some rule
forbidding teams to go beyond their
own scrimmage line in the execution
of shifts before the ball is put into
play.
Outside the above points, I see no
chance for heavy c hanges of any char
acter, nor aer any heavy changes
needed. The way the public all over
the land patronized the garnee this
fall indicates very clearly that they
think football a pretty good game
now'. Neither have there been any
very loud complaints from the coaches
or players; and so'we may look for a
game in J914 very similar to wiiat. we
have been seeing for the two seasons
past.
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GIBSON THROUGH WITH HEAVIES.
NEW YORK, Dec. 8. Billy Gibson, of
the Garden Athletic Club, is through
with heavyweights for all time to come,
according to a statement credited to him
to-day. The New York public, he said
won’t fall for the big fellows. The Wil-
lard-Morris bout was the last straw
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