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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN' AND NEWS.
FINANCIAL SHEETS ARE SHOWN TO PROVE FRANK’S COMPOSURE')
Herbert Schiff, Office Assistant, Tells of Intricacies of Work on Tragic Day
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✓hagan?—A. Yes, he asked my sister;
he didn’t ask me.
Q. Weren't you there?—A. No. I
wasn’t there. I was In ihe house.
Q. Weren’t you standing by your
sinter and she said the last time Mary
Phagan was ‘«een by her was Thurs
day before the murder and you stood
there and said nothing**—A. No. I
didn’t hear that. I was in the house,
but I didn’t hear all he said to her
**Come down.” said Arnold.
Lad Didn’t Flee Court.
Mr. Dorsey interrupted.
Q George, has there been any
trouble to set you to come to court?—
A No. sir; I was playing ball when
they sent for me yesterday and didn’t
get the message
Mr Arnold objected to the question
ar.d reply and Mr. Dorsey Maid:
“Your honor, Mr. Arnold made the
impression on this court yesterday
that this boy was fleeing from the
court. The deputy said he couldn’t
find him. We Just want to show that
he was alwayse willing to come.”
Judge Roan overruled the objection.
Q. George, you were always willing
to come, weren’t you?—A. Yes, sir.
1 got tir^d hanging around the court,
and asked you if 1 could go. You told
me you would send for me when you
needed me. I came when I got your
message.
Reporter Placed on Stand.
John Minar. a newspaper reporter,
was the next witness.
Q. Were you a reporter for The
Georgian in April?—A. I was.
Q. After this girl’s body was found
did you go out to this boy Epps’
home?—A. 1 did.
Q. What day and time?—A. Sunday
evening. April 27. at 8 o’clock.
Q. Did you ask this boy and his |
sister when they last saw Mary Pha-
gnn?—A. Yes.
Q. Were they together?—A. Yes.
<4. Is there any doubt they both
heai’d you?—A. No.
Q. What did they say in reply to
your question?—A The girl said she
had seen her Thursday.
Q. Did the boy say anything?—A.
He said he rode to the city with her
in the mornings occasionally.
Q. Did he say anything about riding
with her that Saturday?—A. No.
Hooper took the witness on cross-
examination. but brought out nothing.
Herbert Schiff, who worked with
Frank as office man and salesman,
wras the next on the stand.
Mr. Arnold questioned Schiff.
Q. You are assistant superintendent
of the factory, 1 believe?—A. 1 have
worked in several capacities.
Schiff Tells of Duties.
Q. What were your duties at the
time of the murder?—A. 1 was assist
ant to Mr. Frank.
Q. What were your exact duties?—
A. The duties were divided equally
between Frank and myself.
Q. Did you have anything to do with
the financial statement?—A. Yes. I
helped collect the data.
Q. Did you or Mr. Frank have any
thing to do with the cash?—A. Only
the petty cash.
Q. Who did the real handling of
the finances'*—A. The general man
ager, Mr. Sig Montag.
Q. Who drew the checks?—A. Mr.
Montag.
Q. Did either you or Mr Frank ever
draw*' any checks?—A. No, we didn't
have any authority to.
Q. What time did you and Mr.
Frank draw your money?—A. We
drew our checks the last of the month.
We never consulted each other about
the exact time.
Q. Do you know how much Mr.
Frank made?—A. One hundred and
fifty dollars a month.
Q. How’ much did you get?—A.
Eighty dollars.
Q. You said the general manager
was Mr. Montag. Did he stay at the
factory?—A. No.
Q. Was any of the financing for the
factory done at the factory or at Mon
tag’s?—A. No.
Q. All you did was to look after
manufacturing? A.—Yes.
Q. That financial sheet, what was it
for?—To show whether the week was
a profit or a loss.
Q. Why did you make it up on Sat-
*>
Only a Mask.
Men are not being benefited by the
summer vacation as they sfrould be.
Now. notwithstanding much outdoor
life, they are little If any stronger
than they were The tan on their
faces is darker and makes them look
healthier, but It is only a mask
They are still nervous, easily tired,
upset by trifles, and they do not eat
r.or sleep well What they need is
what tones the nerves, perfects di-
Kion, creates appetite, and makes
bieep refr*»Hn1ng, and that is Hood’s
Sarsaparilla Pupils and teachers
generally will find the chief purpose
uf tl t vacation best subserved by this
greatijnedicine which, as w’e know,
builds up the whole system."
urday?—A. Because our report never
came in until Friday and the pay roll
had to be figured in it.
Q. How long have you been making
those sheets?—A. Since Frank went
to the factory.
Q. Beginning with June, 1912, and
running to January, how much time
did you miss?—A. None.
Q. When did you take your vaca
tion?—A. That’s right., I took a vaca
tion from the last week In Juiy
to the first week in August.
Q What time do you usually go to
dinner?—A. At about 12:30 and get
back at about 2.
Q. What time did Frank go?—A.
A little after 1 and got back before
3.
Q Did you do any work on the
financial sheet be'ore Frank got back?
—A. Yes I got up my slat racket.
Q Did Darley do any work on it?
—A. Yes. he helped.
Q Did you all w*ork together?—A.
Yej.
Q. Did the stenographer work Sat
urday afternoon?—A. Very seldom.
Q You were frequently interrupted
by salesmen?—A. Yes.
Q You would stay there and leave
together?—A. Very often.
Q Did you ever have n negro night
watchman there before Newt Lee?—
A. No
Denies Seeing Women.
Q. When did Newt Lee come there?
—A. About the first of April.
Q. What was the night watchman
before him?—A. A white man named
Kendrick.
Q. Who was the watchman before
him?—A. His father.
Q. Did you ever see any women
there Saturday afternoons?—A.
Never
Q. Did Mrs. Frank ever come down
there on Saturday afternoons?—A.
She would come down some time and
go home with Mr. Frank.
Q. Is there a bed, cot or anything
of the sort in the factory?—A. No,
sir; they did call my attention to a
dirty box in the basement that was
used by the Clark Wooden ware Com
pany. •
Q. Were you at the factory every
Saturday from June 1, 1912, to Jan
uary 1. 1913?—A. Yes.
Q. I believe you said you w’ent on
the road the first Saturday in Jan
uary?—A. Yes.
Q. What time did you leave?—A
About 5:10 in the afternoon.
Q. Did you go by the factory that
day?—A. Yea, I went by and talked
with the fellows until about half an
hour before train time. Mr. Frank
and several w’ent to the train with
me.
Q. Have you ever seen this man
Dalton?—A. Yes. I saw him for the
first time upstairs.
Q Did you see him around the fac
tory?—A. I did not.
Q Do you remember Daisy Hop
kins?—a. Yes, I would know her if I
should see her.
Q. When was she there?—A. The
witness referred to his books and re
plied: “This shows h$r first as being
there on May 21 and last on June
6. 1912.”
Remembers Thanksgiving Day.
Q. % Did you ever see her around
there on Saturday afternoons?—A. I
never did.
Q. Do you remember Thanksgiving,
1912?—A 1 do.
Q. What sort of a day was it?—A
Cold and rainy. It had snowed
Q. Were you at the factory that
day?—A. I was.
Q. Who else was there?—A. Mr
Frank and my nr If an office hoy and
Jim Conley came there under in
structions. I told Jim Conley to come
and stack up some boxes on the
fourth floor.
Q. Do you remember what time he
left?—A. Yes. about 1ft o’clock.
Q. What time did you and Mr.
Frank leave?—A. Shortly after 12
o’clock.
Q. Where did you go?—A. Home
Mr. Frank’s Washington street car
came before my Whitehall street car.
and he got on it.
Q. Do you know of anything he had
to do that night?—A Yes. He was
president of B'nal Brith and it was
giving an affair that night. He had
some packages in his handa, some
crackers, and things.
Q. What is the B’nal Brith?—A. It is
a charitable organization, /
A What were they grfing to give
that night?—A. An affair at the Or
phans' Home.
Q.,You went to the car with him?—
A. Yes.
Q. At what time?—A. About 12:80.
Q. Who paid off on April 25?—A. I
did.
Q. Do you recall a girl. Helen Fer
guson. asking for Mary Phagan's pay?
—A. No.
Q Dljl she ask for her own pay?—
A. Yes
W- What is the rule as to one cm-
STREETCAR MEN AID
THE FRANK DEFENSE
MOTORMAN W. M. MATTHEWS.
ployee collecting another employee’s
pay?—A. They have to bring a note.
Q. Did anyone go to Mr. Frank for
pay on Friday?—A. No.
Q. Was there any necessity for any.
one going to Frank for their money?
—A. No.
Q. Did or did y’ou not see anyone
go to Mr Frank?
Dorsey objected. “Your honor. I
object to Mr. Arnold leading this wit
ness.” he said. "He Is willing enough.”
"I move that Mr. Dorsey’s statement
be ruled from the record,” said Mr.
Arnold.
Dorsey : s objection was sustained.
Q Did you put posters in the fac
tory when there was a holiday?—\
Yes. twelve of them, notifying the
employees they could get their pay
the day before.
Q. What time did Frank go home
Friday?—A. Six o’clock.
Q. Did you get up any of the finan
cial sheet Friday, as usual?—A. Nt
It was an unusual week. We had to
work very hard to get up the pay roll
Friday, and 1 could not touch It.
Q. Did that put other and addi
tional w’ork on Frank?—A. Yes
Q. Did you go to the factory Satur
day?—A. No.
Q. Why?—A. I overslept myself.
Q. Did anyone call you up?—A.
Yes; Mr. Frank called up twice In
know where the data for the finan
cial sheet was.
Q. Did you answeT the phone?—A.
No; the maid did. I only know what
she told me.
Q. Then Mr. Frank had to take
your data and make up the financial
sheet?—A. Yes.
Q. Did that require more than the
ordinary amount of work on his part ?
—A. Yes.
Questions Schiff About Chute.
Mr. Arnold asked Solicitor Dorsey’s
permission to use the State's diagram
of the National Pencil Factory pre
pared by Bert Green.
"Help yourself.” said Dorsey. The
diagram, however, did not suit Mr.
Arnold, so he had his own model
brought in.
Q. Are you familiar with this door
that leads into the Clark wooden-
ware department?—A. It was two or
three days before 1 noticed it. It
was cracked open.
Q. Is there a hole in the rear of the
building leading into the basement? —
4. Yes; there is a hole boxed up, but
open. It was used to carry waste
shavings into the basement.
Q. Was it large enough to put the
body of a girl the size of Mary Pha -
gan through?—A. Yes.
<4 Wdi tkede a trapdoor back
there?—A. Yes.
Q. Was it nailed?—A. I don’t think
so.
Q. The door to the department was
usually locked?—A. It was nailed up.
Q. When did Mr. Frank first dis
cover that you had not made up your
part of the sheet?—A. Saturday w r hcn
he called me up, I guess.
Q. How long did It usually take you
and Mr. Frank to make up that finan
cial sheet?—A. About three hours.
Q. This sheet (handing the witness
the sheet Frank made up Saturday
afternoon of the murder) was not
made up Friday, was it?—A. No. sir.
Q. When did you first see It?—A.
The next week, when I got it from
the general manager’s office.
Says Sheet Is Correct.
Q. Have you looked over it and
seen that it was correct?—A. Yes.
Schiff enumerated the various
items on the she'* showing the
amount of work required to make it
up. Frank had to add, divide and
multiply various items, the witness
said, to arrive at the cost of produc
tion during that week.
Q. How many pencils do you pro
duce a week?—A. About 3,500 gross
Q. How many are in a gross?—A.
One hundred and forty-four.
Q. Have you any other places?—A.
Slat mill, In Oakland City, and a lead
plant on Bell street,
Q. Did he have to do any bookkeep
ing for these places?—A. Yes.
Q. I will get you to state what tha*.
second sheet is?—A. Another finan
cial sheet.
Q. The financial sheet is reduced to
| one page?—A. Yes.
Q. Is this Frank’s handwriting on
; the sheet of the week of April 26?—
| A. Yes.
Q. You are familiar with the hand-
1 writing?—A. I am.
■Q. Is it his usual handwriting?—A.
j It is. v
Q. Was that sheet of the week be
fore made out by Frank?—A. Yes.
Q. How do the handwritings com
pare?—A. They are the same.
Q. Neither you no* Frank had done
any work on that sheet of the 26th—
on Friday—had you?—A. We had not.
Q. How long would it have taken
him or any other man to have made
it out?—A. About three hours.
Dorsey Again Objects.
Q. How does his handwriting here
of April 26 compare with his writing
of the week before?—A. Almost iden
tical.
Q. Does this one of April 26 show
iny nervousness?—^.. None at all.
Dorsey interrupted. "The jury
should decide that, your honor,” he
said.
His objection w'as sustained.
Q. Are these the financial sheets foi
the whole year?—A. Yes.
Q. What is the shortest time you
ever saw one of these compiled?—A.
It couldn’t be done in less than two
and one-half hours.
Q. Look at these—June 6, 13, 20, 27.
Are they in Frank’s handwriting?—
A. Yes.
Q. These of July 4, 11, 18, 25?—A.
Yes.
Q. August 1, 8, 16, 22, 29, September
5, 12, are they Franks handwriting?
—A. Yes.
Q. These of September 19, 26, Oc-4the roof to the basement.
tober 3, 10, 17, 24, 31, November 7,
14, 21, 28, December 5, 12, 19, 26 and
January 2?—A. Yes.
Q. You left the following Saturday
to go on the road, didn’t you?—A.
Yes.
Q. From May, 1912, to January 2,
1913, did Frank miss making the re
port on Saturday’s?—A. No.
Q. Are these in Frank’s handwrit
ing, January 9, 16, 23, 30, February
6, 13, 20. 27, March 6, 13, 20 and 27?
—A. Yes.
Q. How about these of April 3 and
10?—A. Yes.
Q. You have in your hand the last
two w’eeks?—A. Yes. m
Q. This is the one of April 17?—A.
Yes.
Q. And this one of April 26, made
out on the day the girl was murdered?
—A. Yes.
Q. lie has not missed a day’?—A.
No.
Cash Book Produced.
Attorney Arnold introduced the pet
ty cash book to show the small sums
drawn out each week.
Q. How much did you pay out that
week?—A. $39.61.
Q. How much did that leave?—A.
$30.64.
Q. Not Frank’s money?—A. It cer
tainly was not.
The witness was next shown the
requisition and the house order t-oks.,
which he identified as having been^t?-—A. Sixty-five cents.
W. T. HOLLIS.
They came on Saturday, didn’t they?
—A. They did.
Dorsey: ”1 object. He doesn’t know
to his personal knowledge.”
Schiff: "They w r ere not there Fri
day night, and they were there Mon
day.”
The objection was overruled.
Q. Was not this work entire’y sep
arate from the financial sheet?—A.
It was.
Q. Did you know’ little Mary’ Pha-
gan?—A. Her name was familiar on
the pay roll, but I did not know who
she was until after her death.
Q. When did you see Frank after
Sunday?—A. I saw' him Sunday at
Bloomfield’s.
Q. Was Mr. Frank of a nervous
temperament?—A. He was.
Q. Did anything unusual upset him?
—A. Yes. He w f ould go all to pieces
and run up and down the office.
Q. When anyone would get cut or
hurt, you or Mr. Darley would have
to look after him, would you not?—
A. We would.
Hooper objected to Arnold leading
the witness. Arnold admitted that he
was leading the witness.
Q. Do you know' Jim Conley?—
Yes.
Q. What sort of a negro is he?—A.
There isn’t much to him.
Hooper interrupted: "I object to
the form of both of these questions,"
he said ‘T move that they be stricken
from the records.”
Arnold again admited that he was
leading the witness.
Q. What work did he do?—A. Truck
and ran the elevator.
Q. Do you know his character and
was it good or bad?—A. Very bad.
Q. Would you believe him under
oath?—A. I would not.
As to Monteen Stover.
Arnold showed the witness the
murder notes.
Q. Where do you find this paper
in the factory?—A. Anywhere from
Dalton’s Testimony False,
Girl Named on Stand Says
The Georgian to-day received from
Miss Laura Atkinson, of No. 30 Ella
Vtreet, one of the young women men
tioned in C. B. Dalton's testimony, a
letter denying absolutely that she
had ever walked home with Dalton
from the restaurant near the pencil
factory, as he swore. Here Is Miss
Atkinson’s letter in full:
Editor The Georgian:
Will you please allow me space
to correct a statement made by
Mr. C. B. Dalton in his testimony
at the Frank trial, and published
in your paper yesterday? In an
swer to a question from Mr. Ros
ser as to ^whether he ever went
to the pencil factory with any
one except Miss Daisy Hopkins
he said yes, he used to go to the
Busy Bee and w’ait for the fac
tory to close to walk home with
the girls, and gave my name as
one of the girls.
His statement, as I read it in
your paper, impressed m« as be
ing intended to convey to the
minds of those who heard it (and
of course all who read It) the
idea that I was working at the
factory at the time he says he
W’ent there and that he was in
the habit of walking home with
me. I have no desire to make any
derogatory remarks about Mr.
Dalton, but in justice to myself
and my good name, I certainly do
feel it my duty to say that his
statement concerning m e is false
Q. Are they swept into the base
ment?—A. Yes.
Q. Why are they thrown around?—
A. We use them for note paper in the
different departments because this
paper is much cheaper than any oth
er we have.
Q. Do vou recall hearing a conver
sation between Mr. Frank and Mr.
Ursenbach Friday about going to the
ball game Saturday?—A. Yes, but not
exactly w’hat was said. I heard Mr.
Frank say something about "I w’ill go
if I can, Charley.”
Q. Can you sit in Mr. Frank’s of
fice at his desk and see the clocks?—
A. Only half of one of them.
Q. If that safe door is open, could
you see out?—A. No.
Q. Could Monteen Stover have seen
over it?—A. It would have been im
possible.
Q. How much is that safe kept
open?—A. All the time when any’one
is working in the office.
Q. Did you return to the factory
Monday?—A. Yes.
Q. Who opened the safe?—A. I don’t
know.
Q. Did you look into the safe that
day?—A. Yes.
Q. Did y’ou see anything of a silver
mesh bag in that safe?—A. No.*
Q. Did you ever see a purse of any
kind in the safe?—A. Yes.
Q. When was it?—A. It was a little
leather purse Joe Stelka found in the
front of the factory a year ago. It
was kept in the safe so that if any
body ever called for it it w’ould be
there.
Says .Conley Was Scared.
Q. How much money did it have in
and he had not tho slightest
ground w’hatever for making it
and no right to use my name in
any way in his testimony.
I have known him only about
six months, and have never been
in his company but three times.
On two occasions I was at church
with a gentleman friend who
was also a friend of his and he
walked with us from the church
to my home, less than three
blocks, and one afternoon while
out walking I met him and he
walked with m e a distance of
about four blocks. That, and a
few conversations over the tele
phone, probably three or four,
mark the extent of my acquaint
ance with him. I worked at the
pencil factory exactly two days
the second w’eek in July (last
month), and did not even see Mr.
Dalton on either one of those
days. I had never worked there
before nor been there, and have
not since.
Will you please state these
facts in your paper and clear up
any false impression that may
have been made on people’s minds
concerning rne. and the slur I feel
has been cast on my good name
by having him make such a
false statement where it would
be published broadcast over the
country? I will appreciate it and
thank you very much if you will
correct the statement.
Sincerely,
LAURA ATKINSON.
No. 30 Ella street.
Q. Were you aware of the fact that
this negro Jim Conley sometimes
failed to punch the clock?—A. I had
gotton after him several times.
Q. You never excused him?—A. No.
I docked him.
Q. Did you ever see blood spots on
the floor?—A. Yes.
Q. How did blood spots get on the
floor?—A. Well, when anyone cut
their finger, or anything of that kind,
they would come to the office on the
second floor to get it fixed.
Q. Would they pass near the la
dies’ toilet on the second floor on the
way to the office?—A. They would in
coming from the rear of th6 second
floor.
Q. Have you seen that hair since?
—A. No.
Q. Was there any blood under that
lathe?—A. No.
Q. Was there any water where this
negro said he found the body?—A.
No.
Q. Has that place been washed?—
A. No.
Dorsey took the witness on cross-
examination.
Q. Did you taik to Gheesling at the
undertaker’s Sunday?—A. No.
Q. Do you recall talking to Sam
Hewlett, a detective?—A. Only when
we employed him as night watchman
Q. When did you tell the detectives
about Mrs. White seeing a negro?
Arnold interrupted. “How can tha!
have anything to do with this case?"
he asked.
Hbi objection wp" sustained.
Employment of Pinkertons.
Q. How mnnv times did Frank
phone you Monday?—A. Two or three.
Q. Where was he then?—A. At
home.
Q. The factory was full of detec
tives?—A. Yes.
Q. What time did he phone you
about tho Pinkertons?—A. About
noon. , ,
Q. What aid he say?—A. He asked
me to tafe up with Mr. Montag the
employment of a private detective
and suggested the Pinkertons. He
said he thought It was only fair to
the employees.
Q. What time did he call you agam?
—A. About 1.
Q What did he want?—A. To know
if I had located Mr. Montag.
Q. What did you tell him?—A. I
told him I had not been able v to get
him yet.
Q In vour conversation with Mr.
Frank did he say anything about
his nervousness?—A. Yes, he spoke
of it.
Q. What did he say?—A. I don t re
member. I think once he mentioned
how terrible the girl looked. Again
about them flashing a light on the
body in the dark room.
Complained of Being Upset.
Q. He complained about being ter
ribly upset about being rushed from
home, didn't he?—A. He said some
thing about that.
Q. What did he tell you the police
told him over the telephone?—A. He
said they told him a catastrophe or
tragedy—I don’t remember the term—
had happened.
Q. He told you he asked them if
there had been a fire?—A. Yes.
Q. What did he say about his
breakfast?—A. He said one reason
he was nervous was that he had not
had any breakfast and wanted a cup
of coffee.
Q. How long would it take a man
to enter those eleven orders on a
book?—A. An hour and a half.
Q. You have gone up some since
you swore before the Coroner?—A.
I did not swear before the Coroner. I
said I thought.
Q. Didn’t you swear that it would
take about 30 minutes?
Arnold objected. “He asked it like
he meajis all that work,” Arnold said
Dorsey: “He know’s what I am ask
ing.” Laughter followed Dorsey’s
remark and the deputies were forced
to rap repeatedly for order.
Arnold: “I am going to move that
this courtroom be cleared, if there
is any more of this disturbance. If
we have got to take all of this crowd
in, we might as well try the case out
in the open.”
Judge Threatens Disturbers.
Judge Roan: “Mr. Sheriff, find out
who is creating this distrubance and
bring them to me. I will see if I
can’t stop it.”
Dorsey continued his questioning.
Q. You know that Miss Hall made
the acknowledgment, don’t you?—A.
Sometimes.
Q. That would make some little
difference wouldn’t it?—A. Yes, five
or ten minutes.
Q. Will you explain to this jury,
if you can, how it took 30 minutes
to enter the orders and only five min
utes to write the acknowledgment?
—A. I said It would take an hour
and a half to do all the work on that
paper. t
Q. It took that long to fill out an *
order, enter the number, etc.
Arnold Interrupted: “He has ask
ed the witness that question and got
his answer,” he said.
The objection was overruled.
Q. I want you to detail the work
that it took an hour and a half to
do. (Schiff took the order book, the'
transcriptions to the order blanks,
the check, and the requisition front
the storeroom.) It took 3ft minutes
to put this much on the book?—A.
I don’t think so
Quizzed on Office Details.
Q. Look at this acknowledgment.
"hat are these initials? ‘H H tr > A
Hattie Hell.
Q. Then she did this?—A. Yes.
Dorsey took an order bearing the
a and bearing date of
April 26.
Q. Did Miss Hall acknowledge this
on April 26?—A. No, I wouldn’t think
so. It was probably acknowledged
Monday or it might have been the
day before April 26.
Q. Well, was it the custom to write
these before or after they were en-
£ this book?—A. Either way.
c*. 1 hen you had no regular sys-
but one do# * s not hinge
other - . Xt dld not make any
E 1 * dlff f rence bow this was done It
had to be done in the regular course
of business. N
q ?? ln ^ court adjourned until
9 o clock Monday morning.
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had made interest on the order book
on April 26.
Q. Are these orders correct?—A.
Yes
Q. Look at these letters and see?—
A. There is a better proof than thav
If they were not correct, we would
have heard from them.
Q. Did Mr. Dorsey call for these
books?—A. Yes.
Q. Did you hold back or conceal
anything?—A. No; we gave them
Q Did you see Jim Conley at the
factory Monday?—A. Yes.
Q. Tuesday?—A. Yes
Q. Did you see Mr. Frank when he
came back Monday’?—A. Yes.
Q. Tuesday?—A Yes.
Q. Do you recollect him going up
to the fourth floor? Were you with
him constantly that morning?—-A.
Yes.
Q. Did he speak to Jim Conley that
monrng?—A. No.
Q. Did you see Jim Conley speak
to him?—A. No.
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Q After Frank entered the orders 1 morning?—A. I saw him near the
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them?—A. He put them on these or- | was doing there. He said he was
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Q. Take each one of those eleven
orders and Pee if they were checked
in his handwriting.—A They were.
Frank of Nervous Temperament.
The witness went carefully over
each order.
Q. I have asked you about a mass
of business relative to notne orders.
scared to go out—that he would give
a million dollars to be a white man.
I answered that that would not do
any good as they had taken Mr
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Q. Everybody was excited down
there, were they not?—A Ye*» the
girls were crying. We had to dis
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